On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:43 PM Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:

> and when you are at it get rid of "ib_logfile0" and "ib_logfile1" which
> hold data even in file-per-table mode you can't cleanup from crap caused
> by a crash 13 years ago

How can that happen when every once in a while upgrades require a full
clean shutdown with innodb_fast_shutdown=0 so that the ib_logfile*
have to be rebuild due to an on-disk format change?
More to the point, if that is a concern, why can you not shut down
cleanly with innodb_fast_shutdown=0, rm the files, and let MariaDB
re-create them completely clean and empty?

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