Hi, to " Santiago Roza": I absolutely subscribe what you write. Actually I was writing a similar criticism..
about "market segmentation.odt": I do not think that the approach is the right one, that is taken in there. This is a very product orientated model. And I think that is should nit be the point to persuade people to use GNOME. He cited a passage of John Williams and I think that was a good citation/point. I think we CAN choose what kind of users we target. What we choose now can be different in one or two years. I think we should know why we target what audience! And thinking that a target group is good is not enough. There should be more hard facts. I do not aggree on not targeting the mainstream desktop is a good idea! Dave NEary wrote: "Because the mainstream will adopt Linux, not GNOME, and GNOME will just come along for the ride (see: Distributions and third party developers). And the mainstream isn't yet adopting linux on the desktop, so focussing energy there is a waste of our time." I don't think that this must be the case. GNOME clearly has to develop in other areas like ASP applications. We should not just follow the path of WIndows and say that we can not follow. I am absolutely convinced that a GNOME desktop can be competitive in the mainstream market. My impression is that GNOME really does not want to be "loved". There is too much scepticism: On the one hand there are the hackers that know why they use GNOME, also the early adopters. And they do often communicate badly to the mainstream. If you look at the Ubuntu marketing you can learn that they just claim to be more human than other distros and gain a great new market share with it. This was ingenious! I also think that there is too less thought about how people actually will install there GNOME. I think that "buy your distro, stupid" is not a very good approach. Convincing ISVs is a nice idea and it will also pay off. What I would suggest is that there is also a way for a single user or a small company to test GNOME and also to install it very easy. Rigth now this is against our policy and I think this is wrong. I have the feeling we really want GNOME to be mainly for hackers and early adopters in the future. Linspire showed with Wal-Mart that Linux does not have to be in a niche market. People have some needs that they want to have solved. And GNOME can contribute, although I also think we have some more lessons to learn and our products have to be much better. Some products are very good and we should show them more prominent. Besides the applications we shuld show how GNOME is solving every day problems (by this I did not say anything about the target market) Thilo -- http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list