On 20 Jul 2006, at 22:34, John Hwang wrote:

> In light of the non-developer end-users,
> http://www.gnome.org/project/nautilus seems like too much information.
> "Project" has a specific meaning about nautilus and a user doesn't
> care that nautilus is a project of Gnome.  In my opinion,
> http://gnome.org/nautlius or even  http://gnome.org/programs/nautilus
> makes more sense.

Of course, nautilus is a particularly troublesome case anyway,  
because many users will potentially never know that their file  
manager is called 'nautilus' at all.  So perhaps we'd need to set up  
something like gnome.org/filemanager as well...

Cheeri,
Calum.

>
> On 7/20/06, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Calum Benson wrote:
>> > On 20 Jul 2006, at 07:59, Quim Gil wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ok, then we would have www.gnome.org/projects/* pages which  
>> would be
>> >> feature pages from projects, probably elaborated by the marketing
>> >> team,
>> >> while the project pages themselves would fall out of our
>> >> responsibility
>> >> and would be placed under projects.gnome.org/*
>> >>
>> >> Since we don't have project feature pages, all the current  
>> projects
>> >> should be under projects.gnome.org/* , we need to decide which  
>> feature
>> >> pages we want to have for the current release under
>> >> www.gnome.org/projects/*, and do them.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Is there really any need for the intermediate "projects" level  
>> in the
>> > URL, btw?  I always find it unbelievably convenient that the home
>> > page for every major Apple application is just http:// 
>> www.apple.com/
>> > <appname>, for example.
>> >
>> I would tend to agree here. I think it is important we have a  
>> number of
>> gnome.org branded home pages for the key applications within the
>> desktop, like apple.com does. For example, and introductory page for
>> nautilus might be at www.gnome.org/nautilus or
>> www.gnome.org/projects/nautilus. This would serve as both informative
>> and marketing to new users.
>>
>> Whenever I see projects.gnome.org it makes me think of a sourceforge
>> type site the provides hosting and other services. Do we really  
>> want to
>> be a hosting service for some (but not all) gnome related  
>> projects? Even
>> sourceforge does not have directory level urls for each project.
>> Instead, each project gets it's own sub-domain.
>>
>> If we went ahead with just moving gnome.org/projects to
>> projects.gnome.org, I don't think we would be solving any  
>> problems. The
>> only problem with /projects at the moment is that it frequently  
>> causes
>> problems with the website build. We could solve this by moving it out
>> into separate module(s). The only other problem is that the sites  
>> don't
>> follow the www.gnome.org design, but I think this is outside the  
>> scope
>> of the main www.gnome.org revamp (we need to concentrate on our  
>> content,
>> not other people's).
>>
>> I hadn't prepared a partitioning draft yet, partly because I  
>> hadn't been
>> aware my name was next to the task, but also because I can not see  
>> many
>> reasons for changing most of the current arrangement. The only  
>> changes I
>> would make would be to either update or remove  
>> developer.gnome.org, and
>> move some of the more anomalous sub-domains to other places (e.g.
>> glade.gnome.org moves to www.gnome.org/projects/glade).
>>
>> So, let's focus on sorting out our own content before we start moving
>> other things around. We will have to provide legacy links anyway, so
>> there seems little point in moving something unless we are  
>> absolutely in
>> agreement it's what we want to do.
>>
>> -Thomas
>>

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