Hi, Luis Villa wrote: > I'm sorry to be so negative, but this is a lousy idea and I think that > needs to be said. Do not repeat the mistakes of early 2.0 (before we > got our act together) and KDE 4.0. Be patient; just because Topaz is > unlikely to happen (I agree) is no reason to rush out and slap 3.0 on > something.
I think we need to wrap this up as like this, and no more: We're moving to a 6 month/2 year time-based cycle. Our first 2-year cycle started in March (that means we're now behind schedule! Ouch!) 2 year cycle: Identify big overriding theme - current low-hanging fruit would be web integration, presence, geo-positioning, IM - the platform for these exists, all that is needed is to turn that into real user-available features - for each application or group of applications, do the specification work (eg. Rhythmbox with an "Upcoming concerts from this artist (and similar artists) in your area" - information all available from Last.fm and geoclue - would rock). We're not going to get all this done in one cycle, but it creates a goal, something to aim for & push people towards 6-month cycle: As you were. Keeps platform & apps stable and evolving. For the moment, we've decided to move to the cycle. Now we need to have a process which arrives at a finality - realistic user-targetted goals which will benefit users, and not have us drowning in a massive rewrite. That process is the big challenge. Like I said, there are a number of low-hanging fruit out there with Soylent/Telepathy, Geoclue, EDS (and hey, if the libs are hard to use, we can give feedback & get them fixed), the Online Desktop stuff which looked really interesting... we just need to turn these from technical-facing "stuff" to user-facing Actions and Projects. We're currently buried under our stuff, and we need more projects! Whatever process we (you?) choose, it must have a finality. I'm extremely happy to see the release team stepping up & taking ownership of the future of GNOME. In my ideal world, you guys would now open a consulting period for ideas & brainstorming, and at the Boston Summit (or before), announce what the theme for GNOME 3.0 will be, with a long list of features to be co-ordinated across the desktop. So, Luis, I think you were being a little harsh - GNOME's been lethargic for so long, you're expecting to see us sprinting, when we're still at the stage of learning to walk again. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list