Hi Dave and Emily, Thanks you for trying to sort this out! I'll be happy to look over it too once it's on the wiki, and perhaps, provide some updated answers. We had another successful round of internships complete since the interview and another round begin. Also how we run OPW has affected how we ran GSoC this year. The latest news was covered in http://www.gnome.org/news/2012/05/gnome-launches-new-round-of-outreach-program-for-women-internships-and-improves-other-outreach-initiatives .
Thanks! Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Neary" <dne...@gnome.org> To: "Emily Gonyer" <emilyyr...@gmail.com> Cc: Marketing-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:09:41 PM Subject: Re: (2/3) Fwd: Re: Annual report - can I interview you? Hi, If you think so, I'm delighted to concur! I thought that some editing and a little narrative would make for a better article, but I'm happy to bow to your superior availability ;-) Thank you! Dave. On 05/30/2012 04:41 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: > Hi again, honestly, I think it'd be fine in the annual report as a > simple Q & A - theres a ton of great info here already, and aside from > adding more info directly related to the OPW I'm not sure what would be > needed. If its all right with you, I'll work on getting it edited for > grammar/spelling/etc and stuck on the wiki as such in the next day or two. > > Emily > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org > <mailto:dne...@gnome.org>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Email 2 of 3 re Marina interview for annual report. > > Cheers, > Dave. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Annual report - can I interview you? > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:18:46 -0500 (EST) > From: Marina Zhurakhinskaya <mari...@redhat.com > <mailto:mari...@redhat.com>> > To: Dave Neary <dne...@gnome.org <mailto:dne...@gnome.org>> > CC: Juanjo Marin <juanjomari...@yahoo.es > <mailto:juanjomari...@yahoo.es>>, Emily Gonyer <emilyyr...@gmail.com > <mailto:emilyyr...@gmail.com>>, ka...@gnome.org <mailto:ka...@gnome.org> > > Hi Dave, > > Sorry about being a bit late with these. Let me know what time you > would like to talk on IRC tomorrow (Tuesday) or any other day. Any > time after 11am EST tomorrow should work for me. > > Thanks! > Marina > > Q. Marina, you've co-ordinated the GNOME Outreach Program for Women for > the past two years. Can you tell us how you got involved in GNOME > yourself? > > I joined Red Hat six years ago to work on a social networking > product after seeing a posting from the team's manager on LinkedIn. > I had used Linux through my college years and at my previous job, > but I didn't have any experience contributing to free software. In > fact, I remember puzzling over why there was a choice between two > options - GNOME and KDE - at the login screen of my Red Hat > Enterprise Linux workstation at my previous job, and wondering how > was I supposed to know which one to pick. > > Four years ago my original team was merged into the desktop team and > I started working on GNOME. With many great GNOME contributors out > there, it's uncommon for the desktop team to hire someone who is not > an established contributor, so the fact that I ended up working on > GNOME is a happy coincidence. > > Q. How did you end up co-ordinating the Outreach Program for Women? > > In August 2009, I received an e-mail from Diego Escalante Urrelo, on > behalf of the GNOME Board of Directors, asking me to organize the > outreach effort. Having just come from the Gran Canaria Desktop > Summit, it was very evident to me and others how few women there > were in the GNOME community. There are just 4 women in this[1] GNOME > group picture of about 160. Two other women are Stormy Peters and > Rosanna Yuen, who worked for the GNOME Foundation. The third woman > is Alia Merali, who joined her husband in attending several GUADECs > and helped with organizing GUADEC in Barcelona in 2006. It was very > exciting to me to have the mandate and the support of the GNOME > Foundation to involve more women in the GNOME community. > > We started out by doing a round of introductions on the > gnome-women-list @gnome.org <http://gnome.org>, putting together a > page with mentors who can help women start contributing to GNOME, > working with the FSF on creating resources and recommendations for > encouraging women to get involved in free software, creating an > issue of the GNOME Journal with articles by women, discussing the > 2006 Women's Summer Outreach Program with its organizers Hanna > Wallach and Chris Ball, following up with that program's > participants, and encouraging women to apply for Google Summer of > Code and connecting them with mentors. When we only ended up having > one female participant in Google Summer of Code that year, we > decided to create the dedicated internship opportunities for women. > > There were 15 and 23 women respectively at the GNOME women's dinners > at GUADEC in 2010 and the Desktop Summit in 2011. So the outreach > effort has definitely worked. > > [1] > http://images49.fotki.com/v856/filevUZx/7142f/7/441267/7802004/081.jpg > > Q. Has it been easy to convince people to mentor projects? What > proportion of the mentors are male? > > People who were involved in organizing the program were the original > mentors and provided the initial participants with a reasonable > choice of projects to contribute to. We have been encouraging people > in the GNOME community to sign up as mentors throughout, but seeing > the work of the initial participants was likely the most effective > encouragement that got people to add themselves to the list. Because > pairing up participants with mentors is one of the key components of > the program, I occasionally had to ask people about mentoring > specific projects. They were usually happy to help. > > For the first round, we started out with 8 projects and 9 mentors, > out of these 3 were women. For the latest, third round, we had 18 > project and 27 mentors, with 7 women among them. So about 70% of > mentors are men, which is expected, since we need the help of > everyone in the community in mentoring the participants. Two of the > women who participated in the program as interns, Luciana Fujii > Pontello and Ekaterina Gerasimova, have now become mentors. > > Q. Do you think we're doing a good job as mentors in the GNOME > community? What could we be doing better? > > We have a lot of resources for someone who wants to start > contributing to GNOME and people are generally happy to help, but we > need to have more people taking an active role in informally > mentoring newcomers. It'd be great if there were more people hanging > out on #gnome-love and answering questions there. > > It'd also be great if people suggested a suitable first bug to fix > to newcomers and mentored them through the process of getting the > patch committed. We should not be afraid to direct newcomers in what > bug to fix first, as this will actually help them get started and > learn things that will inform their subsequent contributions. Every > Detail Matters is a great initiative to point out bugs that are > important to fix to contributors with any level of experience. > > Recently, we used the list of mentors we already had for the > Outreach Program for Women to start a more general list of GNOME > mentors [1] who are willing to informally mentor any newcomer any > time throughout the year. We encourage everyone to add their > projects and themselves to that list! > > This list is included on the page with links to mentors in different > free software organizations [2], that is hosted on the Google Summer > of Code wiki. I initiated creating this resource based on our > experience in the GNOME Outreach Program for Women of connecting > applicants with mentors and requiring that they complete a first > patch with the help of the mentor during the application process. > Making sure that applicants are connected with the project's mentor > and make the first contribution before or as part of the application > process is essential for a successful internship. > > [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove/Mentors > [2] http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Mentors > > Q. What do you think are the main issues that we need to work on as a > community to see more women getting involved in GNOME? > > We need to spread the word more about the mentorship and internship > opportunities we have for women. Out of the 12 participants we have > this round, 3 received this information because I contacted people > or groups in the area. One of these women and 6 others were > encouraged to apply by someone locally. One woman was regularly > reading Planet GNOME and 2 others were already involved in the GNOME > community. If more people use the resources we provide for spreading > the word at their university and local technical community for the > next round, we would reach more women! The request to do so and the > resources will be out sometime in February. > > Beyond that, it would be great to organize events at universities > and local technical communities that teach people the basics of how > to contribute to free software, such as using a bug tracker, > revision control system, and IRC. It's important to start with > basics in order to attract a wider audience. The Open Source > Workshop [1] at MIT organized by OpenHatch is one example of such > event that many students found useful. It has excellent materials > and interactive exercises available online. Also, it would be great > to organize events where people can get help installing GNOME and > starting to contribute to it. Being able to try things in a > supportive environment where experienced contributors can help > resolve any setback within minutes would help many people make the > first step, which is the hardest. Emphasizing the collaborative > style and mentioning the Outreach Program for Women in advertising > such events would help attract women to attend them. > > [1] http://openhatch.org/wiki/Open_Source_Workshop > > Q. Given the success of the first two editions of the Outreach Program > for Women, do you anticipate the program continuing in future years? > > We have just started the third round of the program, which had even > more strong applicants than the two previous rounds. We are planning > to run another round of the program from May to August, with an > application deadline in early April. > > There are currently many people and organizations making an effort > to get more women involved in free software, and I expect it to > become a lot more common for women to be involved in free software > projects in the next few years. However, even when people inside the > project will take it as a matter of course that women are involved, > it will still take even longer until this view is shared by society > in general. We should try to continue the program as long as we see > that there are women who have a potential to be strong contributors > out there, who are not getting involved in the same ways as men who > have this potential. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Neary" <dne...@gnome.org <mailto:dne...@gnome.org>> > To: "Marina Zhurakhinskaya" <mari...@redhat.com > <mailto:mari...@redhat.com>> > Cc: "Juanjo Marin" <juanjomari...@yahoo.es > <mailto:juanjomari...@yahoo.es>>, "Emily Gonyer" > <emilyyr...@gmail.com <mailto:emilyyr...@gmail.com>>, > ka...@gnome.org <mailto:ka...@gnome.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:52:11 AM > Subject: Re: Annual report - can I interview you? > > Hi, > > On 12/05/2011 07:14 PM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > > Thanks for making plans to cover mentorship in the annual > report! I'll be happy to do an interview and help with any > materials about mentorship for the report. > > How about we start it out as a written Q&A, and then you can > follow up with more questions via e-mail or on IRC based on my > answers if you'd like? That way I'll get a bit more time to > think about the answers to the core questions, but then we can > incorporate questions based on the answers I provide and > introduce an element of a discussion into the interview. I'm > generally around this week and next. > > > Sure! I was thinking that a half an hour IRC chat which we could edit > afterwards might come across more as a conversation than a Q&A - but I'd > be happy to send you a few questions to allow you to organise your > thoughts. We can either publish these, or do the conversation format > afterwards, whichever you prefer. Thanks! > > > Q. Marina, you've co-ordinated the GNOME Outreach Program for Women for > the past two years. Can you tell us how you got involved in GNOME > yourself? > > Q. How did you end up co-ordinating the Outreach Program for Women? > > Q. Has it been easy to convince people to mentor projects? What > proportion of the mentors are male? > > Q. Do you think we're doing a good job as mentors in the GNOME > community? What could we be doing better? > > Q. What do you think are the main issues that we need to work on as a > community to see more women getting involved in GNOME? > > Q. Given the success of the first two editions of the Outreach Program > for Women, do you anticipate the program continuing in future years? > > > Thanks for your help! > > Cheers, > Dave. > > -- > Dave Neary > GNOME Foundation member > dne...@gnome.org <mailto:dne...@gnome.org> > Jabber: nea...@gmail.com <mailto:nea...@gmail.com> > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org <mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > > > > -- > Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. 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