On 12/14/2012 07:21 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Sorry I couldn't attend - a sick son & bedtime meant that 8pm
yesterday was rush hour in the Neary household.
On 12/14/2012 03:24 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote:
Sri: Theres a common wisdom that GNOME will throw out features and are
unfriendly. We've let others tell our story for us. As a result, most
of the press we receive is negative, focusing on GNOME 3's failures
and shortcomings.
Andreas: Whats the biggest drawback of this perception?
I would say that the biggest draw-back of this perception is that we
are not growing as a developer community, because we're seen as a
conservative project where code is as likely to be rejected as
accepted once the work is done, it's not clear how to get pre-approval
before developing something that it'll be accepted.
I can see this and it's something we can improve over time. Related to
this (and sorry for hijacking the thread here), is that I think we
currently do a very bad job at having a first time contributor experience.
We have https://www.gnome.org/get-involved/ but I feel it's currently
pointing to a bunch of loose ends (especially Test and Code).
I was in #gnome-love the other day and someone joined and asked "Hey! I
want to start contributing to anything with code! How can I get
started?" and I was like "Let me walk you through jhbuild hell...". The
whole experience was extremely frustrating to me, I can't imagine how it
was for this person.
I know Sri and Colin are looking at OSTree for some of this, but just
having the jhbuild documentation sorted out would be a massive help.
It's a mess right now.
Also clearer documentation on who to talk to, what to download, etc.
would be a massive help.
Dave, since you have experience in this realm, any suggestions on what
else we need to do to fix this?
- Andreas
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