Don't worry about what Hadoop or Cassandra are doing. It's better if we just try to stick to the branding policy and work out what makes sense for us.
On 4 April 2013 03:50, Kimihiko Kitase <kimihiko.kit...@citrix.co.jp> wrote: > OK, lets add (TM) to logo. One thing I want to check is if Hadoop and > Cassandra has logo with TM? > > My comment on the logo Sonny posted. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Trademark+Guidelines+%28DRAFT%29?focusedCommentId=30760434&#comment-30760434 > > 1. Why don't put cloud monkey to logo? > 2. TM is really black. Isnt it better to use same color with "cloud" or > "open source cloud computing" > > Thanks > Kimi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 10:12 AM > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Draft trademark guidelines > > The ASF policy on this should come in handy here: > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs > > Specifically: > > "Logos are important to recognize as trademarks as well. For the project's > official logo (if it has one, and especially if it uses the ASF feather), > ensure that it includes a small "TM" symbol in the graphic or immediately > adjacent to it. For pages that include the project logo on them, ensure you > mention "... and the Project logo are trademarks..." in the attribution." > > Additionally, for textual content: > > "At the top of each project or product homepage, and on the top banner of > each page where the project name appears, you should include a "TM" symbol > next to the first main occurrence of the "Apache Foo" project name. This > highlights our trademark claim and emphasizes its importance to us." > > > > On 4 April 2013 02:05, Kimihiko Kitase <kimihiko.kit...@citrix.co.jp> > wrote: > > > "(TM) is not used" means (TM) is not used in the image of log, > > although trademark of logo is registered trademarks of ASF. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kimihiko Kitase [mailto:kimihiko.kit...@citrix.co.jp] > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:58 AM > > To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org; > > cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Draft trademark guidelines > > > > Hello > > > > I registered cloudstack-marketing alias today, so please correct me if > > its already discussed. > > > > I think as text word, Apache CloudStack(TM) should be good, but (TM) > > is not used for logo usually... > > And also it should be better to use cloud monkey "Cloudy" into logo. > > > > See Hadoop and Cassandra for example.. > > http://hadoop.apache.org/ > > http://cassandra.apache.org/ > > > > Thanks > > Kimi > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:sonny.ch...@citrix.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:38 AM > > To: cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Draft trademark guidelines > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > I posted a version of the Apache CloudStack logo with the TM in the > > comments of the link below. > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Trademark+Guide > > lines+%28DRAFT%29?focusedCommentId=30760434&#comment-30760434 > > > > Did we still want to keep the open source cloud computing tagline? > > > > Let me know. > > > > Thanks You and Best Regards, > > > > Sonny H. Chhen > > Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - > > CloudPlatform > > 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mathias Mullins [mailto:mathias.mull...@citrix.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:22 PM > > To: cloudstack-market...@incubator.apache.org > > Cc: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Draft trademark guidelines > > > > Just thought about it as well. "Cloudy" the name of the Character > > should be in name or place be at least (tm) SM or (r). > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/26/13 5:05 PM, "Mathias Mullins" <mathias.mull...@citrix.com> > wrote: > > > > >I think you also need to add "CloudStack, Open Source Cloud Computing" > > >as one of the trademarked phrases as well. If it's in the Logo, then > > >the verbiage has to be covered too. > > > > > >Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 2/26/13 5:00 PM, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > > > > > >>On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chip Childers > > >><chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: > > >>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 04:55:37PM -0500, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On Feb 26, 2013, at 3:34 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > Hi folks, > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Sorry for spamming two lists. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > We've been drafting some guidelines and had them reviewed by > > >>>> > trademarks@ - and wanted to get them out in public for comment > > >>>> > and discussion. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Draft is here: > > >>>> > > > >>>>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Trademark+G > > >>>>ui > > >>>>del > > >>>>i > > >>>>nes+(DRAFT) > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> Reading it, it seems that we need to change the logos to have the > > >>>>symbol ? > > >>> > > >>> Yes, I think it does. > > >>> > > >> > > >>Yes - most definitely. > > >> > > >>>> Does this also mean that on the website and docs we need to have > > >>>>the (r) symbol every time we write CloudStack(r) ? > > >>> > > >>> Probably, yes. Or at least (and I'm no expert) assert the mark's > > >>> ownership in the docs somewhere. > > >>> > > >> > > >>Asserting once per doc should be fine. We have a section for this > > >>explicitly in our documentation. (the publican brand stuff - I'll > > >>be updating that shortly) > > > > > > > > > > -- > NS > -- NS
