On 24 May 2013 21:54, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Quite flabbergasted actually. What's wrong with a book icon on a webpage ? >
We've been over the opposing arguments several time in this thread. > Checking their book for sanity is a 10 minute deal, one evening if you > want to be thorough. I think you underestimate how much time it takes to review a book for quality. Or perhaps we have different interpretations of what a review would comprise. Note that David spent several evenings on this (I believe) before he found a problem. > We are spending more time discussing it than it would take doing it. > Having the Packt book is terrific, there is no being neutral about this. > Discussion-lead consensus-building is an important part of how we make decisions. :) And it's up to the community to decide how neutral or circumspect we wish to be about third-party resources. On 24 May 2013 22:06, Kelcey Jamison Damage <kel...@bbits.ca> wrote: > I can't imagine this has anything to do with the quality of work at this > point but is primarily a political discussion. > Yes, I believe we are talking about the general case here. (Note: not "political" but "project".) > I do think the fact I hammered into Packt the value of being a friend of > the community and following our rules, and product usage guidelines > resulted in an offer to donate 2% of revenue to the project, is another > strong gesture of positivity. > Agreed. Similarly, when people donate to us, they get a mention on http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html — but nothing more. We never endorse people in return for their contributions. > A lot of time and effort went into this book from a community perspective > and not a commercial one. Yes someone is making money, but at least Packt > reached out and got committers and community members to > co-write/advise/edit the book prior to publication, and then after > publication reached back out to the community. Those action have impressed > me greatly. > I don't think anyone has any problem with people making money off the back of CloudStack. Strikes me as a great thing! > I am not sure how assisting the community in locating print materials is > bad for us in any way. > The arguments have been covered a few times in this thread already. -- NS