Can we please not hijacked the [VOTE] thread with [DISCUSS] items. If people feel that there is a reason to DISCUSS more then we can cancel the vote, otherwise let's just keep voting. As it was said, we can always revisit later, but let's keep moving.
I mentioned the vote would be open for 96 hours from Monday morning. I will tally votes friday morning. -Sebastien On May 28, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, but I am a little confused... What are we doing that is fundamentally > wrong? > > None of us are trying to profit off this vote or what have you..., we simply > want to grow the community in an inclusive way by including community works > as optional resources. Whether the community work was created from donated or > paid time, and whether the work is being sold or given away, does not make it > any less vital to our community if at least in a measure of interest. > > The way I see it, is we can do everything ourselves(not possible), or we can > engage and empower the community to do things themselves, and in return > celebrate that interest and devotion. > > From what I'm learning, the more 'pure' we are, the less inviting and more > exclusionary. I personally feel the success of this project is not just in > the hands of the developers, but also in people doing cool things with our > product, and us allowing a forum for these people to share and discuss their > endeavors. Often people are inspired by seeing what their colleagues have > done. > > Sorry for rant. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rohit Yadav" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:46:29 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] List CloudStack related books on the website > > Just my view: Lobbying is something we should avoid from what I understand > from the Apache culture. This is not to flame anybody or anything, I've > recognized may be the issue is in me; sorry but I've very strong sentiments > and emotions around opensource software development, I've decreased my > contributions, left my last job which was emotionally scaring me among > other things and threads like these just boils my blood, please just avoid > ugliness :) > > And the argument that we don't have to get this perfect right away, meh, > just does not apply; should we be doing something that is fundamentally > wrong? I know a lot of people like lobbying and practice it, maybe no one > is wrong. > > Just saying. > Peace. > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Agree with the "we don't have to get this perfect right away" approach. >> >> >> On 28 May 2013 18:17, Chiradeep Vittal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> While I appreciate the don't-play-favorites sentiments, I do feel that we >>> are over thinking this issue. If favoritism becomes an issue, we can >>> revisit. At that point, I'd imagine that there would be half-a-dozen >> books >>> on CloudStack and listing/not listing them won't make much difference -- >>> so we could remove ALL books. We're not there yet. >>> >>> At this point in time, it is appropriate to support such efforts. >>> -- >>> Chiradeep >>> >>> On 5/27/13 1:27 AM, "Sebastien Goasguen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> After a relatively long discussion on the marketing@ list about the >>>> "Packt Book" [1] I would like to call a vote. >>>> >>>> Proposal: >>>> ---------------- >>>> I propose to list CloudStack related books on our website [2]. The page >>>> listing these books would contain the following disclaimer: >>>> >>>> "This listing does not represent official endorsement by the Apache >>>> CloudStack project. The Apache CloudStack project does not recommend one >>>> book versus another nor does it guarantee the quality of the books." >>>> >>>> Inclusion of a book in the listing would be done via a vote on the >>>> marketing@ list. >>>> ---------------- >>>> >>>> As a quick summary, alternatives to this proposal were to: >>>> 1-not do anything >>>> 2-list the books on the wiki >>>> >>>> A few of us have already expressed their opinions and discussed the >>>> possibilities. Check [1]. >>>> >>>> Vote will be open for 96 hours (To accommodate Memorial day in the USA). >>>> >>>> Reply with: >>>> >>>> [ ] +1 approve >>>> [ ] +0 no opinion >>>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) >>>> >>>> PS: If edits of the disclaimer are needed but that they do not change >> the >>>> meaning of it, the disclaimer will be modified but the vote will not be >>>> restarted. >>>> >>>> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/r4qdmbonmx6yq2uv >>>> [2] http://cloudstack.apache.org >>>> >>>> -Sebastien >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> NS >>
