Hossein,
So i was exactly in the same boat as you are. I had bunch of people in
my previous company scream - why are we going CloudStack if OpenStack is
a "standard". No one of those folks actually understood the difference
between the two. If i'd have installed cloudstack and change the logo to
openstack - they would not have known the difference.
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.cloudstack.devel/10158
We also had a bake off earlier, OpenStack VS CloudStack. We had 2
systems guys eager to implement the private cloud, one linux python
expert and another windows system admin who barely had any linux
experience.
Two weeks later, the python guy failed to deliver a POC cloud on
OpenStack, while windows engineer delivered CloudStack in 1 day. I took
over the infrastructure from then on.
You have to decide whats right for you. Do you have a budget and team of
developers to maintain your cloud infrastructure on openstack? Are you
in business of running and maintaining infrastructure? There is a reason
why Verizon Terramark, Nokia, AutoDesk, Disney, BT, Tata Communications,
Korea Telecom and 200+ known companies in addition to 300+ companies who
dont disclose their usage of CloudStack.
The truth on the winning platform remains to be seen. There is an open
cloud standard - where everything must be decoupled and fault tolerant -
an AWS concept, as to what underlying cloud stack you use - will become
irrelevant in near future.
Try both platforms and see what happens.
Regards
ilya
On 5/28/14, 1:38 PM, hossein zabolzadeh wrote:
Thanks Arjan.
Without any doubt, the best solution is to use DC virtualization
technology(CloudStack) in contrast to infrastructure provisioning
cloud solutions(e.g. AWS, OpenStack, ...) to solve this problem.
CloudStack is the best openSource solution in the DC virtualization
era. My choice at the end will be cloudstack(Probably). But what makes
me very disturbe is deviation from the cloud de-facto standard, what
OpenStack is looking for. As the OpenStack project shows, it will be
more standard than be a product.
I don't belive that one cloud solution(OpenStack) will dominates the
whole in the future, but the standard compliancy is one of my concern
that makes the decision more harder than before to select CloudStack.
Best Regards,
Hossein.
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Arjan Eriks <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Hossein,
I can only give you a generic answer for your problem. We are
CloudStack and AWS users. Our company is a system integrator /
outsourcing company / managed service provider.
We run into your issue all the time.
For applications that need HA and resiliency we have (often)
chosen to fix the issue in the Cloud Infrastructure. Like you
stated you do not want touch the code base. Of course you cannot
fix infra on AWS. You can do some of that in CloudStack (or
OpenStack).
Having that said AWS and CloudStack without alterations could be
an option in some uses cases. You have to design properly for your
issues.
If you want to know exactly what you are up against you have to
investigate a little more. You can do so, by making a PoC on both
CloudStack environments and AWS. Or you can ask a company that is
helping you from a consultancy point of view. Which one i best
depends on the level of engineers you have in your company.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Arjan
hossein zabolzadeh <mailto:[email protected]>
28 May 2014 18:29
Thanks for your video. I saw, and it was useful.
But I have another question: What happens when an old application
ran into
the AWS like cloud infrastructure?
In my opinion the application bother both from HA and resiliancy.
What's your idea behind that?
Let's talk about my problem. My main problem is that, I want to
convert my
company's datacenter into a cloud infrastructure. But there are
atleast 10
legacy application which hold my business. So, if I go to the AWS
like
CMPs, I don't know what will be happening when run all of these
10 legacy
applications?
(I don't want to make any change to my application codebases)
Thanks in advance.
Aaron Delp <mailto:[email protected]>
28 May 2014 15:15
Take a look at this video I did. In this context vCloud = Old Apps,
OpenStack or AWS = New Apps, CloudStack = Both Types of
applications in
different availability zones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guw2n8XceLg
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hossein zabolzadeh <mailto:[email protected]>
28 May 2014 14:03
Hi,
I hear a lot about openStack, and its rapid development and
improvement. I
also know that we have two type of cloud paradigm. Amazon and
Vcloud. And
also know that cloudstack is vcloud like CMP. But What really
these words
mean?
Can you take an example(Technical Example) to show the real
differences
between AWS and Vcloud cloud approach?
From a technical point of view, what is a real difference between
these tow
types of cloud approaches?
