Hello everyone, I added LibreOffice Artwork to Artwork Team project board ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks ) and created a draft specification to provide guidance to our team ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-5 ).
An outstanding issue is where submissions will be posted. Although your wiki may be used for this purpose, I would like to suggest an alternative that has work well for us. The alternative is Flickr. Guest accounts are free and this site is tailored for this purpose. A moderated community can be built to group submissions to a project. This relieves the wiki of the image storage burden permitting it to be used for supporting documentation. I can set this up if desired. John On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Thorsten Wilms <t...@freenet.de> wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:25 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > > > @TDF guys: I'd like to make one last plea for my idea of a logo/mascot > > competition (if you have clear arguments against it, I'll drop the > > subject). > > Contests are devoid of the traditional client/designer relationship. > There tends to be no strategy, no briefing, no iterations. > > A contest means that each participant invests their time, betting on > creating the one design that will be selected. Contest holders don't > value people's time and effort and you have to wonder if participants > value their own time and effort. > > Contests do not speak of community and cooperation. It's everyone > against everyone else. Building on each others work is discouraged. > > The risk of ending up with a "good" design that just lacks some > refinement is sometimes met with a refinement stage after the contest. > There you can marvel at design by committee in action. > > You will often see lots of participants with little or no design > education and a panel of judges that have little to no clue what they > are actually looking for, either. Do you think BMW, Apple or Gucci would > hold a logo design contest? > > > http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/10/spec-work-and-contests-part-two.html > http://www.no-spec.com/ > > > > 4) We can capitalize on the contact we've made with Ubuntu Artwork; if > > they're willing, they can "foster" us in this to some extent, and LibO > > participants can learn and develop a lot of good workflow methods and > > practices from an experienced and successful "big brother" project. It > > will also develop and strengthen this new relationship. > > You are deluded regarding the scale, reach and success found in Ubuntu > Artwork (as a community project). I told you before, but apparently you > didn't listen. Does it help to show this are not just claims of some > random guy if I say I have been involved since 2007 and have been > sponsored to attend the Ubuntu Developer Summit 2 times? (Hmm, guess > that means nobody should ask me about successful team-building!) > > Guess I sound overly negative, but I just want to avoid wrong > expectations. > > > On to the constructive part, what should happen: > First you need a good briefing. Even if you still do a contest, you > should have one. At the core is the mission statement of the entire > project. What are the goals? Based on that, you might formulate a > strategy. That's the foundation to decide on your tone and message. What > do you want to express with your visual design? Set priorities. > > Without a good briefing, you have nothing to evaluate designs, expect > for the highly subjective "I like this" vs "but I like that". > > Also see: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/design-in-collaborative-projects/ > > Developing such a briefing, as well as technical and legal requirements, > is a task best handled by a small group. > > You could then select a single or maybe 2 or 3 designers, based on their > availability and past work. > > Or, if you must, have a concept/drafting phase open for all. But instead > of turning it into a contest, it should be a designer's job distributed > on many shoulders. > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > > -- > E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org<marketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org>for > instructions on how to unsubscribe > List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ > All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
