Hi :) There are a number of existing training sites for OpenOffice http://documentation.openoffice.org/tutorials/index.html http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/ http://www.learnopenoffice.org/ http://inpics.net/ If we could contact them and ask them to update their websites to include the names "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation" alongside the name "OpenOffice" or even to replace it entirely then we have ready-made programmes already in place. It would help a lot if someone with an email address ending in "@documentfoundation.org" and ideally someone reasonably official with an equivalent openoffice address could contact the 4 sites. I tried contacting the named person on the "Contact us" page of the "inpics" site but it was a dead address. I would guess that the middle 2 websites are probably the better ones to approach.
I don't know quickly information disseminates through the rest of the world but in England almost no employers recognise any qualifications apart from those they studied at school themselves a few decades ago. Some "professional studies programmes" are recognised but even things like AAT are rarely known of despite being heavily promoted outside their specialist areas. I think we need to develop programmes that give people well-recognised, well-established and well-reputed certificates. Such things as ECDL, NVQ, CLAIT, IBT are existing certification programmes that have been heavily promoted and i think we have got to build (a) training programme(s) to lead to those otherwise our certificates will be worthless and suffer from extremely low take-up. I personally think that 1 programme leading to the highest of those but allowing people to just do early stages of the modules to get the easier qualifications might be the fastest way to get most of those programmes in place. Alternatively just getting the most famous one, ECDL, covered and allowing people to just take the exams without having to study might be a fast way to get people winning the certificates quickly. I don't think NVQ is really viable but i am not sure how it works at all. Also to get any recognition we need to get into schools and places where children might study, perhaps inner-city projects. Unfortunately i think that area is already heavily dominated by MicroSquish and excessive FUD working against us. Good luck all and many regards from Tom Davies :) ________________________________ From: Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> To: marketing@libreoffice.org Cc: Manfred A. Reiter <ma.rei...@gmail.com> Sent: Sun, 19 December, 2010 12:40:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Certification project One other option is for TDF itself to be a partner in the project (or maybe we submit more than one application) with an allocated budget. That would require a commitment by the legal representative of TDF in early February before the application is submitted. (Technically it would be possible to submit an application with TDF as a partner and then TDF could withdraw after approval and another partner take its place so it is not an absolute commitment) A typical budget would be around 20,000 Euros per year over 2 years to pay for travel for marketing and dissemination, time for development work eg screen casts of how to use LO, development of tests or tasks to check competence against criteria, translations. Again part of the purpose of the meeting in Berlin is to decide what needs doing and broadly to allocate the tasks in one or more applications. TDF does not have to be represented in Berlin for this, but we do anticipate having Skype or something similar for remote access to at least part of the meeting time. Manfred is the best person to talk to about that (Also his German is better than mine :-) ) One last thought, experience in EU projects is important in bidding for grants so from that point of view it is worth considering TDF gaining that experience. Then there are possibilities to bid for funding for eg Development of Innovation. Key Activities in ICT, and probably grants to support training developers that would actually support development itself. Learning how to do all this could be a useful longer term investment. On 19 December 2010 11:18, Florian Effenberger < flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Ian Lynch wrote on 2010-12-02 22.05: > > Current situation is that Manfred Reiter and myself have organised a >> preparatory meeting in Berlin 28th January. We have confirmed delegates >> attending from the UK, DE, Ro, BG, CZ, ES also possibly NL and IT too. >> Anyone else wanting to attend should e-mail Manfred (or me and I will >> forward it) as we have to tell the venue how many people will be there. If >> there is interest we can try to arrange a conference or at least an IRC >> session for part of the time. >> > > the discussion with use of the mark, endorsement by the foundation and the > like have to be taken with the steering committee, I guess -- but > independent from that, I am interested to join. > > My finances don't permit me a trip, but maybe we can set-up a conference > call on that day? I am happy to provide dial-in options. > > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger <flo...@documentfoundation.org> > Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >marketing+h...@libreoffice.org<marketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org> > List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQwww.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***