An small addition I would like to make.

Libreoffice needs some way of easy updating for Windows users, because
users of this OS tend to do very bad maintaining of the software. The
lack of a standarized packaging management system makes this a lot
more sensitive than other platforms.

I don't understand about Mac platforms or others, but probably some of
them have similar issues. Apple's App Store can solve it, but I
suspect they are going to ban competition of FOSS software versus
their software (VLC is an example of this). Microsoft is doing the
same for the app store of Windows Phone too as they explicitly banned
the GPLv3 license.

If users are motivated to use an up to date Libreoffice when having
Internet connection, this would make new features and improvements
more spreaded. Of course this is an issue on computers without
Internet.

So this gives us to another related topic The Document Foundation must
be very smartly strategic at it: Propietary software platforms are
getting less free and more controlled in an orwellian style. The
future is forbidding the installation of software by users and limit
the contents by using strong DRM related to Trusted Computing stuff.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi :)
> At one place i work, a charity, they have been able to buy legit copies of 
> MSO 2010 for £20 rather than the usual approx £100.  Word is unable to handle 
> making the Newsletter and LibreOffice can do it with much more finesse but 
> even though i have installed LibreOffice on their machines they prefer to 
> work with Word and it's glossy new ribbon.
>
> On the older machines MSO 2007 was desperately slow.  Opening a document 
> requires taking a tea-break or falling asleep.  LibreOffice just opens stuff 
> before even drumming fingers once.
>
> They seem to think that if the proper price is £100 than it must be a lot 
> better than something that is free despite the evidence.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 19/10/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
> <webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:
>
>> From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmas...@krackedpress.com>
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Glyn Moody's article
>> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
>> Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 1:11
>>
>> There is only one person that I know/met/talked-with
>> locally, for sure that uses Linux and it is maybe 3 for
>> Mac.  Everyone else is a Windows person.  Every
>> one of them that I have a relationship with, I have done my
>> best to get them to try LO.  Only one I did not push,
>> since he had several large personal Access databases built
>> with MSO 97. [Pentium II computer]  When I gave him a
>> free P-III computer, I had to find a copy of MSO, since he
>> lost his copy I gave him all those years ago, since I went
>> to MSO 2003.  He just could not deal with using LO for
>> his database files, for now.  When I find him a free
>> P-4 machine with enough spare drive space, I will have both
>> MSO and LO on that system for him to use.
>>
>> So, he is the only one of all the Windows users that told
>> me that they would not give LO [OOo before January] a
>> try.  Many of these people have dumped MSO entirely,
>> while others use MSO when OOo/LO does not work "properly"
>> for them, and only a few are only using MSO at this time.
>>
>> So I know if we can get the software in their hands,
>> install it for them if we must, they will give it a
>> try.  I just wish I could get the local schools to
>> include LO, but they have these big budget MSO contracts
>> that they "cannot" get out of.  Also since "everyone is
>> using MSO" then they have to teach on that package.
>> Well the parents, students, and anyone else who has to buy
>> MSO at their high prices [who do not need to deal with
>> Access] would be happy to find a package that does what they
>> need and saves the files in MSO file formats for the
>> teachers, that is free and is becoming better and better
>> every few months.
>>
>> The problem is how to get the word out to the masses.
>> With my stroked-out brain, I am not a public speaker.
>> If I was, I would "hire" the lecture hall at the main branch
>> of the Library system to do a demonstration of LO and hand
>> out free copies.  Then have an ad in every library
>> board and every free posting place [respectable ones] to
>> give the date, time, etc..  The problem is I am no
>> longer able to talk my talk anymore.  I could barely do
>> it before my last stroke, and I did one on Web page creation
>> for personal use.
>>
>> I sure could use some ideas to get the local users of MSO
>> to know about our free alternative.
>>
>> On 10/18/2011 06:03 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
>> > On 10/18/11 6:51 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
>> Productions wrote:
>> >
>> >> For Windows users, we need to find some way to get
>> into shows and such
>> >> to convince these users to use LO.  If we can
>> somehow get some of these
>> >> Tech magazines to include LO in one of their
>> included CD/DVD of software
>> >> that seems to come out every so often, we might
>> pick up a few [or many]
>> >> users.
>> > We already reach covermount CDs in several countries,
>> and we should add
>> > editors in all countries. People can help in building
>> a mailing list by
>> > sending us email address of editorial staff of
>> magazines with a CD (the
>> > address is usually printed somewhere on the editorial
>> staff page).
>> >
>> >> It would be nice if we somehow could get some
>> banner ad time on Google,
>> >> or other place that people go to often.  I do
>> not deal with the social
>> >> networks, but there has to be some way we can get
>> the word out to the
>> >> Windows users.
>> > Addressing Windows users take more time than Linux and
>> MacOS. Downloads
>> > are slowly increasing, and this show the increasing
>> interest of users.
>> >
>>
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