Hi :) They are kinda like a reverse Robin Hood. Taking from the poor and giving to the rich. Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> >To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2013, 17:00 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Indian academic institutions forced >to use MS Office > > >They do it in France as well and in many other countries. The cost is >one argument, but then there can be other arguments on costs as well. >This being said, there are plenty of policy arguments to counter that. > >best, >Charles. > >Le mercredi 24 avril 2013 à 20:26 +0530, Kannan Moudgalya a écrit : >> MS is giving this solution to India free of cost! >> >> Kannan >> >> >> On 24/04/13 7:35 PM, Marc Paré wrote: >> > Le 24/04/13 08:34 AM, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : >> >> Dear Kannan, >> >> >> >> I think your question is: do we have an online version of Libreoffice ? >> >> Full answer, we will, there's a prototype anyone can run (instructions >> >> on the wiki), we just need resources to make sure we have a fully >> >> dedicated team to fully develop it. >> >> This LibreOffice OnLine is not distinct from LibreOffice software itself >> >> (you can configure it as a server platform) and anyone with a reasonably >> >> sized server will be able to use it and have several users run it in >> >> their browser. >> >> >> >> If your question is : do we have a whole FOSS desktop stack, we don't, >> >> and we're not looking to have one. I agree with your latest comments >> >> though, and I again invite interested people/teams who are in contact >> >> with existing decision makers in ICT and education to ping me and we'll >> >> open a private mailing list for advocacy/policy coordination. >> >> >> >> best, >> >> Charles. >> >> >> > >> > Taking as example, our school system in Canada. >> > >> > I have been a FOSS advocate for over a decade if not more and also sat >> > on a committee called ESC (Elementary Software Committee) with my >> > school board (for even longer) where we evaluated software destined to >> > elementary school use. Our ESC committee also worked cooperatively >> > with our IT staff making sure that any acquisitions did not take down >> > our servers nor compromised them. In short, our ESC in conjunction >> > with the IT staff were pretty well the deciding group for software >> > purchases and adoptions. >> > >> > At present, we do use some FOSS software but not LibreOffice. As we >> > are all aware, moving to LibreOffice in some geographical regions is >> > quite difficult due to the MSO penetration within these markets. >> > >> > From my point of view, the only way that we could budge the elephant, >> > would be to question the financial reasoning and logic behind using an >> > expensive suite which often will cost between $35-50/seat per module >> > (in Canada and most likely in the US). As most board of educations (in >> > Canada) are financially accountable to a publicly elected School BoD, >> > then our main option would be of demonstrating publicly the fact that, >> > feature for feature LibreOffice offers the same educational advantages >> > as MSO. If it were demonstrated publicly that LibreOffice at the >> > primary level offered the same identical benefits as MSO BUT without >> > its expensive cost, and, if we could demonstrate the LibreOffice suite >> > was easily integrated on their server stacks, then, public pressure >> > would mount with demands to the school boards of adopting the >> > LibreOffice suite as their main teaching tool at the primary level. >> > >> > If we were to mount a public ad campaign, in national, provincial and >> > community newspapers, for example, starting with the most populous >> > province in Canada, we could most likely start a wave of LibreOffice >> > adoption throughout that province. Once the wave starts in a populous >> > province, it then become difficult to stem this wave from propagating >> > to other provinces and of even crossing borders. >> > >> > The purpose of the ads would be to get people to discuss in public and >> > help mount popular opinion on the savings of millions of dollars from >> > unnecessary software. >> > >> > We should definitely be looking at simplifying our cloud version of >> > LibreOffice so that educational institutions have this on their list >> > of options. Most of these institutions have their own stacks up and >> > working already and this is what MSO is hoping to lock them into. >> > >> > I don't believe that this strategy is anything new to MSO as they are >> > most likely expecting it and hoping that we are languishing enough for >> > them to lock their client base into their cloud services. >> > >> > And, yes, MS is most likely on these mailing lists and monitoring any >> > mention of MSO and possible strategic plans being implemented on our >> > part. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Marc >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Bridging digital divide through FOSS, Spoken Tutorials and Aakash >> http://aakashlabs.org/builds/genesis-reprint.pdf >> http://spoken-tutorial.org/CSI.pdf >> http://spoken-tutorial.org/What-is-a-Spoken-Tutorial-2-Minute-Video-English >> http://scilab.in/Textbook_Companion_Project >> http://scilab.in/Lab_Migration_Project >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> > > >-- >Charles-H. 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