On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Charles-H. Schulz < charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Last you heard perhaps. I open a document on GDocs today, and I could > save it on ODF. > I was able to open an ODT (writer) file this morning. And I work with ODS (spreadsheet) files all the time. on GDocs. That's what I meant. Immanuel > > Best, > > Charles. > > > Le Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:28:49 +0100 (BST), > Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit : > > > Hi :) > > Have you used Google-docs recently? Last i heard, and that was just > > a month or so ago, Google-docs stopped allowing people to use ODF. > > > > FSF supports ODF aswell as supporting LibreOffice and TDF. They are > > separate issues though. Part of their campaign for ODF includes the > > crucial point that it can be used (or is even "the native format" of) > > quite a large range of different products. Regards from Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Immanuel Giulea <giulea.imman...@gmail.com> > > >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> > > >Cc: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" > > ><marketing@global.libreoffice.org> Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, > > >12:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Campaign for ODF file > > >formats? > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Tom Davies > > ><tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi :) > > >> If we were to target certain companies to try to "get them > > >> onboard" with ODF then it might be good to start with our own > > >> "supporters". Low hanging fruit should be easier, right? > > >> Google-docs doesn't allow people to use ODF!! Actually i think > > >> ODF usage has improved quite a bit now that MS Office supports > > >> it. It's really odd to have Google as one of the remaining > > >> barriers! > > >> > > > > > >I am not the biggest fan of Google, but in all fairness ODF is > > >supported by Google. You can open and edit ODT files. And ODS files. > > >As for ODP files I can't comment I never made slides on Google, I > > >prefer Impress. > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think quite a few people do "Ask websites that provide editable > > >> files in Word/Excel/PowerPoint to alternately or additionally > > >> provide versions in an ODF format." and it might be good to let > > >> such people know that there are groups they could join that might > > >> help them be more effective. OASIS and the FSF are 2 such > > >> organisations that would be great to promote to TDF's mailing > > >> lists. An announcement now might build-up momentum. The timing > > >> would be about perfect right now. > > >> > > > > > >FSF supports LibreOffice as a free software, so it would be great. > > >OASIS is the backer of the OpenDocument Format (I prefer to use the > > >long name). > > > > > > > > >> Regards from > > >> Tom :) > > >> > > > > > > > > >Other notes: > > >Other efforts can be done with governments. > > >For example NATO has adopted ODF as an international file standard, > > >but not all member countries have this standard themselves. > > >ODF is also ISO. > > > > > > > > >Cheers from Montreal > > >Immanuel > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >________________________________ > > >> > From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> > > >> >To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 9:59 > > >> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Campaign for ODF file > > >> >formats? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >Hello Robinson, > > >> > > > >> >Le Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:29:10 -0400, > > >> >Robinson Tryon <bishop.robin...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > >> > > > >> >> The PDF Readers campaign[1] recently contacted LibreOffice and > > >> >> asked us to promote the use of Free Software readers for PDF > > >> >> file formats. We had a brief discussion[2] on the website > > >> >> mailing list, and I had the idea that it might be helpful for > > >> >> LibreOffice if we or the FSFE ran a similar campaign for ODF. > > >> >> > > >> >> There are several directions such a campaign could take; here > > >> >> are some of my first thoughts: > > >> >> > > >> >> 1) Promote the use of standardized icons for ODF files, both > > >> >> when listing files for download, or when listing system > > >> >> capabilities/allowed upload formats. > > >> >> > > >> >> (Question: Is there a standardized set of icons for ODF files?) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >There was a big debate a long time ago and the answer was that it > > >> >would not really work. > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> 2) Promote the use of Free Software for reading/writing ODF file > > >> >> formats. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >I assume you're familiar with the Document Freedom Day? We > > >> >participate to it too. But at the risk of playing the devil's > > >> >advocate, we promote the use of open standards and ODF, however, > > >> >promoting the use of Free Software for ODF file goes exactly > > >> >against the initial purpose: open standards are open to everyone, > > >> >even proprietary software. That's their value and their > > >> >importance. > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> 3) Ask websites that provide ODF files to link to our list of > > >> >> ODF-compatible Free Software. > > >> > > > >> >our list --> you may rather want to have them link to the > > >> >wikipedia entry on ODF. > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> Following the concept of the PDF Readers campaign, we could get > > >> >> a domain like 'odf-software.org' and provide HTML and campaign > > >> >> badges/icons to make it trivial to link to the site. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >Yes, but.... why should it be up to us? It could be up to the > > >> >OASIS Consortium and other movements to take care of that. I > > >> >sound reluctant here not because I'm not interested but because > > >> >it's very important to realize that we are an implementor of ODF. > > >> >ODF as such is vendor neutral and while we ought to push the use > > >> >of ODF we cannot "take over" the promotion of ODF. > > >> >> > > >> >> 4) Ask websites that provide editable files in > > >> >> Word/Excel/PowerPoint to alternately or additionally provide > > >> >> versions in an ODF format. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >Preaching to the choir :-) Actually Wikipedia / Wikimedia already > > >> >provide the ability to create ODF documents based on a collection > > >> >of articles. > > >> > > > >> >Best, > > >> > > > >> >Charles. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Cheers, > > >> >> --R > > >> >> > > >> >> [1] http://pdfreaders.org/ > > >> >> [2] > > >> >> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg11433.html > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >-- > > >> >Charles-H. Schulz > > >> >Co-founder & Director, The Document Foundation, > > >> >Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany > > >> >Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > > >> >Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > >> >Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. > > >> > > > >> >-- > > >> >To unsubscribe e-mail to: > > >> >marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? > > >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >> >Posting guidelines + more: > > >> >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > >> >http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All > > >> >messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > >> deleted > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: > > >> marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? > > >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >> Posting guidelines + more: > > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > >> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages > > >> sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > >> > > >> > > > > > >-- > > >To unsubscribe e-mail to: > > >marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? > > >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >Posting guidelines + more: > > >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > >http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages > > >sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Charles-H. 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