I should expand on that last email - so it was only this afternoon that I
realized there was a simple way to have both the top level menu and the
notebook bar. The last week every time I needed the top menu back I would
use the menu system to switch back to the standard toolbar UI. Today, even
though I had clicked on it I'm sure at some point last week, it hit home
that the button at the top left corner of the notebook bar put the top menu
back, with the notebook bar in place - great that is worlds better and my
rote use of menu accelerator keys for quick input come back.. so, that is
for this piece IMO for sure. I'll try to cut in that and update the file
tomorrow.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 4:03 PM Drew Jensen <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Howdy Bhairavi,
>
> So the shortest answer to who is the target audience; The general expo
> floor attendee at SCaLE (Sothern California Linux Expo) as a print piece.
> Actually what I would like to do is have few versions of the basic piece
> with two on the Notebook interface (tabs/Groups and Menu Management) then
> one on LibreOffice Online / Android viewer.  That linux expo of course can
> be a stand in for plenty others, but timing wise that show is second week
> in March, so my target is last week of February to have the series complet.
>
> I would figure on generating 90dpi versions based off the print files for
> use online and that would likely include light changes to layout also.
>
> In my mind as this plan hatched it was the harvest graphic, downloaded as
> a personalization theme last week, which got me to think of the UI changes
> in the toolbar, the refactoring work that has gone into making LOOL what it
> is becoming, and other major enhancements/expansions, made the first last
> seven years as the harvest reaped from the work of the community and
> foundation members. I would like to find a why to bring that image into the
> graphics and text.
>
> Now remember this is just a couple of screen shot, and I was really do
> those just to reacquaint myself to doing them at first (working out a set
> of GIMP filters) for generating print graphics, and the text is intended to
> be the very root of a chapter about the notebook bar in a guide. The
> graphic design elements was also a test run as I'd not looked at LO
> branding in a good while.
>
> So basically everything can be changed - but I was hoping to block of the
> layout with the moment and just think about what to say in the text.
>
> This I think turned into the piece focused on menu management with the
> Notebook bar in use - there is more to say on the details still for this
> piece, another paragraph maybe two.
>
> So don't laugh; the jpeg is available (with a link good for the next 48
> hours, cause this is temp file) at
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/QWfm7isS74aoZa2
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Drew
>
> ps - I found that the latest build of the software now has keyboard
> navigation working on the notebook bar, so there you go, even more stuff to
> tell folks about.. ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 3:03 AM Bhairavi Parikh <bhair...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Drew,
>>
>> I'm a copywriter and also on the LibreOffice marketing group.
>>
>> I've tried to set up an account on Next Cloud but am unable to.
>> Is it possible for you to share a JPG with me so I can suggest changes to
>> the copy?
>>
>> Who is our target audience for this piece? In what places will it appear
>> - online and offline?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bhairavi.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:12 AM Drew Jensen <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> OK, so I've taken what I've heard on the list here, thanks again, and
>>> make
>>> some changes to this file.
>>>
>>> First the graphics design elements. I pulled the libo6 branding zip file
>>> off the wiki (and the 5), I used the logo from this branding kit and then
>>> did a merge of part of the 4 branding and the 6 gray gradient branding.
>>> (I
>>> do the final background work with GIMP and did not upload the xcf file,
>>> but
>>> I would do so when this is finished along with odt in a zip file)
>>>
>>> I did this specifically to come at one of the points, raised here on the
>>> list, of presenting the change without causing undue concern regarding
>>> the
>>> current UI, with the message.
>>> You can see this in the file here: ChangingFaceOfLibreOffice.jpeg
>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/84391
>>>
>>> Text wise you will see it is reading more like a document page than a
>>> marketing piece, well I figure that I can try to kill two birds with one
>>> stone today.
>>> The odt file that is used is also available if you have a NC account and
>>> is: ChangingFaceOfLibreOffice.odt
>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/84046
>>>
>>> Assuming that the graphics stay as is, for the moment, and any wordsmith
>>> ideas on presenting the information in the text towards marketing would
>>> be
>>> deeply appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> p.s. deleted the earlier jpeg off the NC server
>>>
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