Hi Mike,

Thanks for your notes. You are right. We have to improve the way we communicate the two different releases on the download page, especially for the majority of users, who do not understand technical subtleties. We might change something for the announcement of 24.8.

I think that we should position the two different options in a way which represents and advantage for the users, which have two options optimized for their needs (100% more than competing office suites), one with more features and the other more robust.

Given the reduced level of attention, any other information - especially if asking for some technical background, and an understanding of what is a software test and a software bug - is redundant, and there is a risk that is perceived in a negative way.

Best, Italo

On 18/07/24 11:52, Kaganski Mike wrote:
Hi!

Recently, version 7.6 EOLed; at that point, it was removed from official 
download page [1], and since version 2.8 hasn't been released yet [2], the 
download page only lists version 24.2.5 currently as the primary download 
offer. So far, I don't see a major problem; the related but different topic of 
possibly postponing EOL till the release of the next branch is not discussed 
here.

In the current situation, 24.2.5 is advertised on the download page as "If you're a technology enthusiast, early adopter or 
power user, this version is for you!", the same as previous bugfix releases of the same branch. And here is the problem. The 
"early adopter" release it the only one offered to users visiting LibreOffice site. This created FUD, created by 
ourselves. There are questions like [3], [4]; there appear advises confusingly suggesting that 24.2.4 may be preferred over 
24.2.5 [5]. Even the release announcement of 24.2.5 [6] has "For users who don’t need the latest features and prefer a 
version that has undergone more testing and bug fixing, The Document Foundation maintains a version with some months of 
back-ported fixes" statement, without a direct reference to it. But the previous announcement [7] had "The current 
release is LibreOffice 7.6.7 Community, but it will soon be replaced exactly by LibreOffice 24.2.4 when the new major release 
LibreOffice 24.8 becomes available" statement, implying that 24.2.4 was meant to obtain "more tested" status.

Note that "more tested" is not simply "more tested than the other offering on this 
download page", but - more importantly - results in a different target audience. And we must 
make sure, that at the point when there is no second offering, our single offering has reached the 
point of maturity to target those who need stability (note that practically, 24.2.5 is already 
there), and that _it_is_marked_as_such_officially_ - both in release announcement, and on download 
page.

[1] https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/24.8
[3] 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/is-libreoffice-only-for-technology-enthusiasts-early-adopters-power-users-and-business-users/108280
[4] 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/telechargement-de-libreoffice-version-stable/108157
[5] https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/header-vanishes/108305/2
[6] https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/07/11/libreoffice-24-2-5/
[7] https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/06/06/libreoffice-24-2-4/

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