Hi John, On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:33:04PM -0400, John Tierney wrote: > > > We must always remember the Key contributor we are trying to get on > > > board is the Elementary Teacher and Students. > > > > ..."Key contributor" to SoaS? Or to Activity authorship? Please > > don't mix the two up - they're quite different. And please don't mix > > up creation of the SoaS product (.iso) - the process I think you want > > to map out - with contribution to the SoaS project. One is a part of > > the other, and - as evidenced by the liveliness of the SoaS mailing > > list - one needn't understand how the .iso is created to contribute. > > But to understand how the .iso is created one needs a heck of a lot > > more information than the SoaS release schedule. Please be precise > > about to what you want to attract contributions via these visuals. > > This seems to be a perfect example. A sketch of how these are different and > separated would be helpful. What may seem very evident to you and the > expertise you have may be very different from me or an Elementary > Teacher.
I hope you find someone who has the time and knowledge to put something like this together. You and I agree that it would be good to have. The point of my mail was to explain why I don't think it's a good use of developer (or my) time, as there are more important things for educators to understand than how the .iso is made. As someone who does know how the .iso is made and has been involved in scheduling limited resources of a small pilot project, I think I have both the technical skills and the domain knowledge to advise on the priority. We're all volunteers and free advice is worth every penny, so of course you can ignore the advice and keep seeking people that will do this documentation. I hope you find someone. I'm not optimistic - note that nobody else has even bothered to respond to you. If I asked for something and someone who knew how to do it told me a) I was close to figuring it out; b) it wasn't a good way for them to spend their time; and c) nobody else even replied to me, I would decide how important it was to me and either a) finish figuring it out; or b) try to find something better to ask for. > Understanding that we need additional volunteers in all areas Exactly. Am I'm telling you this area is less important than others. You have a different opinion: > Visuals that help explain our Processes and Needs would be helpful > when I go talk to Dean Of Computer Science, Dean of School of > Education, and Dean of Business School looking for their Professors, > Graduate and Undergraduate Students to join the Sugar Labs > Community. And that's fine. Go ahead. We're volunteers, and we're not pressed to resolve our differences. I really hope you get your visuals! > From what you have written you seem to have a complete handle on these > relationships > and I ask if you might be willing to share that through a sketch. I am willing but I can't do everything. If it's worth doing it's worth doing well, and I don't have the time to discover enough about your audience to make a presentation meaningful, verify all my informal understandings, include references to canonical wiki pages and sources of further information / study, and all the other things that are needed to do it properly.. I think we have plenty of half-completed information out there and I don't want to add to. > If you believe that this type of collaboration is not worth your > time then all I can say is I respect your opinion and your stance. I do believe that. If it sounds harsh, at least you're getting some response. There are many things we all have that we could do. I wish you luck - and I wasn't kidding when I said you're close, keep going! > Thanks for Your Comments! > > John Tierney Martin
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