Hi Victor,

Interestingly, footnote one in a paper by Lantolf and Thorne that is getting discussed on the xmca list - the paper is at <http://communication.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/JuneJuly05/LantolfThorne2005.pdf>Introduction, in Sociocultural Theory and the Genesis of Second Language Development - has a relevant quote from Bakhurst on the very topic you raise and we are discussing, the relationship of material (natural) objects and ideality. It is from page 183 in Consciousness and Revolution in Soviet Philosophy (1991).

from Lantolf and Thorne:
footnote 1 "David Bakhurst characterizes the production of objective culture this way: [BTW, the quoted Bakhurst sentence begins: "To sum up, Ilyenkov holds that ..." -sg] ‘… by acting on natural objects, human beings invest them with a significance or “ideal form” that elevates them to a new "plane of existence.” Objects owe their ideality to their incorporation into the aim-oriented life activity of a human community, to their *use*. The notion of significance is glossed in terms of the concept of representation: Artifacts represent the activity to which they owe their existence as artifacts.’ (1991: 183)."

- Steve
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