Victor > ^^^^ > CB: Here we see why the transgenerational transmission of how to make and use tools is the key type of social connection defining humans. There are studies showing that chimps , on their own , int the wild, make and use tools, such as sticks to dig in ant hills. But they don't pass on to the next generation how to do it. But they do or at least the women do:
-clip- Actually, we've known for a long time that social groups of monkeys and apes develop special cultural traits that are intergenerational for the group and distinctive from those of other groups. This was first noticed by Japanese researchers into the behaviour of different groups of Japanese Macaques. Some groups wash their food others don't, some bath in the hot spring waters while others don't enter the water at all and so on. Since then animal ethologists in Africa and Asia have been mapping the "cultural traditions" of our anthropoid brothers. Clearly, monkeys and apes do have "cultural traditions" that are passed between generations, but it is much less sure that these traditions are anything more than particular features of an otherwise "non-cultural" array of practices. What distinguishes human culture from that of other creatures is its universality, i.e. man's absolute dependence on culture to learn how to behave at all. ^^^^^ CB: Yes, however, what apes and monkeys have is "monkey see monkey do" traditions, i.e. imitation. They don't have culture, because they don't have symbolling or _ideality_ . They are limited in what can be passed on to new generations by what can be taught through imitation. The distinguishing characteristic of humans is ideality which allows a qualitatively different passage of experiences between generations. ^^^^^^ In truth, we should expect that ideality (and tool making) would appear historically, first, as a particularity, an abstracted individual feature of the universal life activity that preceeded it, rather than as a full-blown universal as it is for modern humans. In principle, the development of a universal such as social labour, tool making and commodity production should first appear as an individual case, become a particular class of phenomena as it expands beyond the individual case (as it does for learned termite fishing among chimpanzees) and only become a universal when it becomes the way things are done by everyone. > Ideality is necessary for this transgenerational transmission to become as > efficient and extensive as it has among humans. > > Thus , "imagination" ( ideality) , planning, focus for days, weeks, years > at > a time on the same goal and purpose, all based on ideality and > imagination, > are the distinguishing characteristics of human labor, not tool use. > > On the other hand, the individual hunter or laborer's imagination and > ideality contains so much information because many others are able to > "put" > info into the "system" or ideological system or cultural tradition that > makes that imagination. > > Notice for example, that the significance of upright posture for hunting > is > not only , as Engels refers to, the freeing of the hands for tool and > weapon > making and use. Ancient humans defeated their prey by long distance > running. > Upright posture slowed humans down so that in a short sprint, they didn't > catch the faster prey, but they would trek the prey down with long > distance > running. This requires longer focus of attention, planning than quick > instinctive attacks. The legs are as significant as the hands in the > original human labors. > > The cooperation among those in the living generation, among the living, is > also potentially enhanced by ideality. > > Of course, after the rise of class exploitative society, ideality becomes > the basis for more anti-cooperation among humans than among chimps. > Ideality > turns into its opposite with the rise of class divided society. In > particular, predominantly physical labor is antagonized to predominantly > idealist labor, and the repressive career of the ideal is begun. > > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis