Jim Farmelant _________

Changing times required that Marxism be adapted
to new developments in the world such as the
rise of imperialism (and later the rise of fascism),
developments in the sciences such as the crisis
in modern physics which was palpable by the
early 1900s and which Lenin had attempted to
address in his *Materialism and Empirio-Criticism*.
That crisis only intensified after Lenin wrote that
book with the emergence of both relativity and
quantum mechanics.  There were developments
in psychology such as behaviorism and
psychoanalysis that had to be addressed
by Marxists and developments in the world
of bourgeois philosophy and economics
required evaluation and criticism by
Marxist intellectuals. All this necessitated
and spurred the creative development of
Marxist theory.


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CB: Ok we have a dialectic of the history of the development of Marxism with
the contradiction that it took creative thinking by Lenin or Caudwell to
_conserve_ the  cogency of the materialist dialectic outlook in the face of
developments in physics, or Haldane  and Lewontin used creativity, dialectic
, to _conserve_ the cogency of the materialist dialectic outlook in the face
of developments in the synthesis evolutionary biology and then DNA genetics.
Yes, there is creativity , but not creativity in philosophy, rather
creativity in science. The philosophical part conserves the cogency of the
classical materialist dialectical perspective of Marx and Engels.

What philosophical new ideas were needed because of the socialist Soviet
Union's very existence ?

At any rate, most of the materialist dialectical foundations of Marx and
Engels were fully pertinent and cogent in this period. Creative developments
of the fundamental Marxist worldview were not needed. Creative concrete
analysis of the concrete situation in class struggle terms, as with Lenin
were "needed" most.

^^^^^^^

And last but by no means least, the October
Revolution opened new vistas for the 
creative development of Marxism. The
analysis of Soviet society and of
formerly "real existing socialism" has
for decades spawned much discussion
and controversy among Marxists, that would
be impossible to summarize briefly here.



> 
> ^^^^
> 
> DUMAIN: That you could make such a statement is alone sufficient to
> discredit and condemn you.
> 
> ^^^^^^
> 
> CB: On the contrary, that you would say what you just did discredits 
>  and
> condemns YOU.
> 
> Who would consider themselves a Marxist thinking that the main thing 
> about
> the works of Marx, Engels and Lenin is that they need creative 
> development ?

I think that both Marx & Engels would be the first to
say that their work did necessitate creative
development. Indeed, they were insistent upon
that point. Look at the development of Marx's
work from his earlier stuff like the *Economic
and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844* to
his mature like *Capital*. He was always
rethinking and reevaluating his ideas.
He was insistent upon the value of criticism,
not of bourgeois thought but of his own work
too.  And I don't think that Lenin's view in
this regard was too much different either.

> Your assertaion fails the test of formal logic.
> 
> "I'm a Marxist , but the main thing about Marxism is that it needs 
> new ideas
> " Ridiculous.
> 
> The main thing that Marxism "needed" in the period in question was 
> to have
> it, AS DEVELOPED BY THE CLASSICAL FOUNDERS, "seize masses" and 
> become a
> material force
> 
> 
> 
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