WL: that evolves in interaction with the material factors of production. In human history the property forms emerge after and on the basis of the material factors of production, and this is so because the property form is a form of a relations rather than that which makes peoples relations to instruments, tools, machines and energy source what it is. CB: There is a history of property or social relations and a history of technology. As a social revolutionary, I am concerned primarily with changes in property or social relations. The history and changes in technology are interactive with the changes in property relations, but not such that all revolutions in property relations are caused by changes in technology. So, I am not looking to find ways to change technology in order to change property relations. MP: I guess you told me. But then I have never really been that smart. All I can speak of is what I have actually done in my life rather than what I have looked for as a revolutionary. I do not look for ways to change technology or property relations. What I have looked for in the past is girls and the right women. Initially, my quest for girls and the right women was based on the beauty that was my mother's face, legs and hips and her tendency to use colorful metaphors. Along the way I discovered the writing of Marx, long after I became a revolutionary opposed to the bourgeois social order. I have carried out my communist activity and striving in a historically specific context. You know my story and as a union representative - a biggie, I negotiated on behalf of the workers, but it was always the girls and women that held my interest in life . . . along with the poker game and various intellectual pursuits. I fight because I cannot not fight. I am most certainly glad that changes in the material power of production, driven by scientific discovery, did change the social relations, as material relations of production rather than an abstract concept of property, or else most African Americans would still be in the South and on the land as sharecroppers and hired farm laborers, with the majority of Anglo Americans tied to the family farm. Above all the social relation of production, that was sharecropping was a real material relations of production. Sharecropper for instance is a form of property relations which is why the sharecropper is called a sharecropper in the first place. What brings this form of property relations to its historical end is the tractor or the revolution in production that most people - perhaps not you, call the mechanization of agriculture. No one looks to change technology in order to change property relations, except knuckleheads standing outside the actual life activity of the various classes and class fragments in society in their daily and hourly interaction. All one can do is fight and strive on the basis of what is in front of them. For instance in 1979, when Chrysler went belly up - defaulted due to failure to honor its obligations in the bond market, I for one did not look for changes in the technology regime to do anything. Nor, did I look for ways to change the property relations because I do not believe such an approach is possible or makes sense in the first place. What, I did was moved to Atlanta Georgia. And believe it or not, there I met a girl - a women, that would become wife number two. This girl - women, was not just smart and a brilliant editor, but had them curves buddy. And some incredible reproductive forces. I have mentioned that I was a communist and you are asked to excuse me if I do not seek to change property relations as such or their form but rather to abolish property as a category shaping the human drama. This is so because I have come to believe that our actual life drama is being played out where it is possible to not simply change the form of property relations but abolish property as ownership rights over the things that dominate the individual. We have approach the opening of an era of history where such a lofty goal becomes possible. Changes in technology are more than less spontaneous. We are born into a society with a given state of development of the material power. This is not a "what comes first the chicken or the egg question" or an abstract question of "a history of property or social relations and a history of technology." Here your lawyer type inquiry and arguments are simply ridiculous. Property relations or rather - and more accruately, the form of property relations emerge on the basis of the development of the material power of production or one renounces the materialist conception - approach to history. With the dissolution of what the classical Marxists call primitive communism, property relations arise in the only form that it can arise as and what gives this form its shape is something. Obviously, tools and instruments and applied energy to produce and reproduce predates the emergence of property. Thus, Marx basically writes that revolution is the results - comes about, as the result of changes in the productive forces rather than the property relations. The fundamentality is always the changes in the material power of production and the sum total of these changes are understood as an impulse within the mode of production, constituting what is called a technological regime. But I understand why you call for building more plants in America as the solution to the running away from US soil of factories. This way the American workers can have jobs. But I concede you are probably correct again . . . from your point of view . . . in as much as your articulate the political ideology of the most privileged workers in their connection with the bourgeois power and hold the less fortunate in contempt. Nevertheless Toffler "The Third Wave" is a tour de force and anyone can compare his book with the other books of the same period. The period is between 1970 - "Future Shock" and roughly no later than 1985. Melvin P.
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