Your question was answered honestly and  earnestly. The answers were 
accurate. 

You state:

>>So,  when I asked "who creates the revolution in the means of production, 
you thought  I was asking "is it humans or grasshoppers or chimps or fish or 
God or Nature  "who" create the rev in the means of production. You thought it 
was a question  as to what species or what beings ?  That's surely playing 
dumb.  <<<

MP: I really am not playing at all and most certainly have  no need to play 
dumb. I am already dumb but what you ask require no real  foresight. You ask 
who creates the revolution in the means of production. At  every stage of human 
development, especially in our early stages of society,  individuals come 
forth whose accumulated knowledge of process logic allows them  to innovate and 
expand the boundary of use of different tools and instruments.  

See your lawyers games are not worthy of you. Listen to  yourself.

CB: So, just _all_ human beings create the rev in the means of  production, 
the whole human race ? Or is it a particular sector ? So who created  the 
"Third Wave" , just human beings in the abstract ?<<

MP: I most  certainly do not speak of all human beings but individuals. 
Individuals innovate  but the character of their actions are more often than 
not 
unplanned from the  standpoint of a strategic view of the entire process of 
production. In this  sense one can speak of the spontaneous development of the 
means of production.  

The question is not posed who created the Third Wave or what I call (and  for 
at least the last five years have called on line), the revolution in the  
technological regime. The revolution in the technological revolution was most  
certainly the result of an accumulation of inventions by individuals. Some 
trace 
 the juncture in the change in the character of technological to the 
transistor.  The transistors replaced the vacuum tube. Some speak of the 
semiconductor 
as the  juncture in the change of the character of technology. The character 
of  technology means the swift away from movement or motion being driven by  
electromechanical motion. 

Your question was answered honestly and  straight to the point. 

See Charles  . . . the moment you set  yourself up as the authority and 
arbiter of Marx meaning and refuse to consider  an on going collective 
discussion 
as broadening your own view, is the moment you  shut yourself off from others 
experiences. 

Leading questions predicated  upon an ideology hostile to mine are no more 
than simple parlor tricks. Your  ideology and mode of thought is that of the 
petty bourgeois ideologist and more  petty than bourgeois. 

Melvin P. 



Yea, and also lets  answer the question who creates the revolution  in the 
means of production  ?<< 

MP. Pardon Charles . . . . Mr. Lawyer, I answered this  question twice 
already and will answer it again. Human beings create the  revolution in the 
means 
of production. Production is revolutionized as a result  of human ingenuity  
and I stated this over and over. A human being created  say the steam engine 
and 
the transistor and the semiconductor and the spinning  wheel and the hammer 
and the hoe. The chariot was created by human beings, as  was the sword and 
slingshot  and irrigation canals. 

^^^^^ Leninist  Lawyer: What a dodge, Wrongline. So, when I asked "who 
creates the revolution in  the means of production, you thought I was asking 
"is it 
humans or grasshoppers  or chimps or fish or God or Nature "who" create the 
rev in the means of  production. You thought it was a question as to what 
species or what beings  ?  That's surely playing dumb. 

So, just _all_ human beings create  the rev in the means of production, the 
whole human race ? Or is it a particular  sector ? So who created the "Third 
Wave" , just human beings in the abstract ?  


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