Ralph Dumain 

At 09:43 AM 5/22/2006 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:

> > (1) Cornforth came to doubt Engels' dialectics of nature; see his
> > 1980 book
> > COMMUNISM AND PHILOSOPHY.
>
>^^^^^
>CB; "dialectics of nature" the book or the whole idea that nature is
>dialectical ? What did he come to doubt about "dialectics of nature" ?

I can't answer this question until I obtain a copy of the book, which will 
probably take a couple of months unless someone wants to send me a copy.

^^^^^^
CB: I'd copy it for you , but I don't have a copy. 

If the CP bookstore in Chicago is still open they may have it.

^^^^^^


>Apparently, the Soviet thaw under Khrushchev was mirrored by
>a similar thaw within the western CPs.
>
> >
> > (5) Cornforth was influenced by Wittgenstein's view of language
> > throughout
> > his career.
>
>Shouldn't surprise anyone.
>
>^^^^^
>CB: When was it that Wittgenstein went to the Soviet Union and wanted to
>work as a worker, but the Soviets wanted him to teach philosophy. Was that
>an early "thaw" in the SU itself ?
>
>^^^^^

I imagine Wittgenstein wanted to go to the USSR before the Khrushchev
era--1920s or 1930s, perhaps?  This wouldn't be a thaw, though.  The
Soviets would never have accepted the kind of philosophy Wittgenstein would
teach, unless seduced by his reputation.

^^^^
CB: I thought Cornforth was a student or associate of Wittgenstein's . He
could have communicated with Soviets. They had contact in international
conferences. 

Also, my understanding is that Wittgenstein rejects his own first system. I
think it is at this point that he wants to go live in the Soviet Union and
be a "worker". Why wouldn't the Soviets want a big time philosopher who has
in his own career and thinking sort of fulfilled Engels metaphor of
philosophy coming to some kind of end ( The End of Philosophy was before the
end of history, the end of ideology, all the other post-ologies and
afterologies). Wittgenstein could be a sort of practicing bourgeois
philosopher negating himself right in front of Soviet philosophy students.
Exhibit A that bourgeois philosophical approach leads to a dead end.


>7) The most important of Cornforth's works for today is THE OPEN
> > PHILOSOPHY AND THE OPEN SOCIETY (1968).
>
>^^^^^^
>CB: In this book he seems to emphasize dialectics as interconnectedness and
>motion.

If we ever get a chance to digitize another Cornforth book, this should be 
the first priority. 

^^^^
CB: I've got the book. I don't know what is involved in digitizing. Is that
typing ?

^^^^^^^

 I've put a few chapters of MARXISM AD THE LINGUISTIC 
PHILOSOPHY on my web site.  It's a lot of work.  Someone should go through 
SCIENCE VERSUS IDEALISM (I have the 1962 version, which already involves 
the modification of Cornforth's earlier views) for usable material.  If I 
can get hold of COMMUNISM AND PHILOSOPHY, I can see what's usable in it.  I 
have no use for the trilogy, but I know someone in Eastern Europe who does, 
so my guess is it will end up on the web.



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