>>> Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/17/2008 7:18 PM
>>>
I don't find this a terribly illuminating discussion.  As important 
as it is to analyze segregation's past, these comments don't shed 
much light on the current situation. 

^^^^^
CB: I don't follow what you mean.  Currently there is residential
segregation by race. It is a fundamental aspect of the divide between
races.  It is rooted in fear of interracial intercourse.

^^^^

 The question was asked why 
people accept an integrated public sphere, including the workplace, 
but still live in segregated neighborhoods and segregated private 
lives generally.  This is a crucial question, but it can best be 
addressed by examining the contemporary situation in various locales. 
This social segregation is central to the problems this country 
faces, and it seems to me that even the most well-intentioned white 
Americans do not grasp the depth of the problem, and not the 
professionally guilt-ridden left either.  One has to get outside the 
prevalent pattern in one way or another to fully see it for what it
is.

I haven't the slightest idea how this affects the presidential 
primaries, or why Iowa of all places went for Obama, or what's 
happening in the primary process, which seems to be me nothing more 
than the electoral equivalent of American Idol. It seems to me that 
white people--the media talking heads, especially--are really 
impressed by Obama in a way that blacks are not, which makes me 
wonder what's really going on here.

^^^^^
CB: In Detroit, 80% Black,  in the primary just held, the Uncommitted
voters were something like 75% for Obama , according to exit polls. ( I
don't know if you heard about the strange situation where Clinton was
the only one on the ballot, and voters for Edwards or Obams had to vote
"uncommitted"). I hear lots of Black support for Obama

At 01:59 PM 1/17/2008, Charles Brown wrote:
>CB: My brother and I discuss the Bradley effect in the recent votes
and
>historical votes, residential re-segregation, anti-miscengenation in
the
>following posts to lbo-talk
>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080114/000999.html

>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080114/001008.html

>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080114/001014.html

>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080114/001038.html

>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080114/001069.html

>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080114/001070.html

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