On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:38 PM, c b wrote:

>>
>> Beginning and end are points.  Neither in time nor in space do they
>> occupy any part of any dimension.  The "middle" between the two is
>> also a point.  What "exists" materially exists in time and space.  If
>> the whole of the existence of something is taken to be the "middle"
>> then that something can *have* no middle because it itself is the
>> "middle."
> CB: But if the beginning is not geometric point, then ...
then what *is* it?
> When someone is born, they are not a point.
Look at your birth certificate.
See where it says "time of birth."
That number is very approximate.
Now imagine that it is accurate to an unlimited (virtually infinite)  
number of digits.
That's a point in time.
Before, you were an unborn baby.
Afterward, you were a born baby.

  Shane Mage

  This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
  always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
  kindling in measures and going out in measures."

  Herakleitos of Ephesos




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