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Louis wrote: "On 3/6/11 10:05 PM, Néstor Gorojovsky wrote: Louis reminded me of Arg opp against Perón in 1955. Allow me to tell you that there was a huge "antiimperialist" wing to that opposition. Without that wing it would have been impossible to overthrow Perón. Nestor, I agree with you on Peron. But you are dead wrong about Libya. Dead wrong." WOW...some independent research that. It's funny to see you walking all proud about your deep knowledge on Argentina,...you wrote an essay on Argentina, that must be it. Compay, calling your essay an "exercise on dialectics" is beyond the realm of empty catchphrases. I will try to point out the various inconsistencies, omissions and fallacies when I have more time, not sure when but I will, you could use a little Inigo ;). Basically, you completely miss (or deliberately obfuscate?) the development of intensive *capitalist* exploitation in the development of the key sector of Argentina's economy since 1880, painting this idyllic picture of the miraculous fertile lands which let semi-feudal "backward practices" survive, making Argentina a "semi-colony" (which semi-puts you semi-close to the theory of the semi-Izquierda Nacional that Argentina has a capitalist state which is not bourgeois, a semi-real exercise on dialectics). Even though you refer to Jeremy Adelman's essay which is good (although limited because it completely leaves out the evolution of the labor process) but only describes mechanization patterns up to 1914 -when the cosechadora (harvesting machine), basically a mobile factory, is introduced in Argentina around the 20's- you fail to explain the changes in the economic and political conditions, particularly the formation of the Argentine working class [sic]. The incorporation of the vast lands of the pampas and others was, as it could only have been, realized with the most advanced machinery of the time. No wonder that after acknowledging that Argentina's economy consistently expanded up to the 30's you can't even explain why, which rather makes your "comparative" approach an exercise on acrobatics, ending of course with the grand pirouette: it was the "contradictions that led to the rise of the powerful left-nationalist Peron". Contradictions...tell me about it. But in the meantime, if you really wanna prove your constant denunciations of the sectarian left, that is, the left that doesn't fall for your "left-nationalist" fairy tales, why don't you ask you cudgel-brandishing buddy here about Silvio Frondizi?, not Arturo his brother. Here's a link, if your Spanish is sufficiente http://www.elortiba.org/pensar10.html . Silvio Frondizi wasn't just an anti-imperialist defending Cuba, he wanted to create together with Che a Latin American International. He was assassinated by the Triple AAA, and who was it that used to shake hands with its top organizers?... ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com