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Except that Beauvoir actually said (I'm assuming this is the quote,
there may be more then one place she said something similar):
"TO will oneself free is also to will others free" (73).
Which is a little more radical then simply wanting to be free, it is the
action of freeing oneself and others along the way.
and about the 'freedom' of the oppressor:
"...a democracy which defends itself only by acts of oppression
equivalent to those of authoritarian regimes is precisely denying all
these values; whatever the virtues of a civilization may be...." (125).
"...if the oppressor were aware of the demands of his own freedom, he
himself should have to denounce oppression. But he is dishonest..."(96).
"At once the oppressor raises an objection: under the pretext of
freedom, he says, there you go oppressing me in turn; you deprive me of
/my/ freedom... We have to respect freedom only when it is intended for
freedom..A freedom which is interested only in denying freedom must be
denied" (90-1).
Of all people to accuse of having a wishy-washy view of freedom,
Beauvoir is not it. In fact, Beauvoir probably had one of the most
nuanced definitions that you could find sociologically, philosophically
or politically.
(All quotes from "Ethics of Ambiguity")
On 11-03-15 10:56 PM,
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:59:12 -0500
From: Gulf Mann<gulfm...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Wallerstein: Libya and the World Left
What a wonderful sounding quote, although palpably untrue: as a rule,
oppressors want to be free, even while they unite to deny such freedom to
their victims.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, dave x<dave...@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps we should all remember Simone de Beauvoir?s
> maxim: ?Wanting to be free yourself means wanting that others be
> free.?
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