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Jay More at 28 March 2011 3:11 PM wrote in reply to Lou Proyect's subject heading You may be right there. But what kind of radical direct action, if any, do you think is appropriate in situations like the Big March in London? How do we as the "conscious element" enable people to take matters to the next level beyond a stroll through the streets and a rally controlled by the pols? [Paddy Apling] But, of course, Jay is also absolutely right. The development from the VERY large-scale demonstration to some action which REALLY troubles the "powers that be" is the CRUX of the problem we are all trying to cope with. I am not sure that any of this on this list have an real idea on how we do this - which almost boils down to how do we manage to make the whole mass of the population turn into "hooligans" because they cannot stand the oppression and the hypocrisy any more. The way that REAL revolutions begin is certainly completely obscure to me, after some 60 years or more as an, intended, revolutionary - who had never seen anything really akin to a revolution until the events in Tunisia, Egypt and the rest of the Arab world in the last month or two. Certainly at the end of WW2, I felt, in the army, I was entering a revolutionary time, but it all fizzled out into the cold war as we all got "demob-happy" and returned to everyday problems at home. I still do not understand why .... Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com