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This is not a civil war - it is a revolution started by the common people which has (partially, I still believe) been taken over by a new portion of the former elite, who are just out to replace Gaddaffi by their own group. But it is MUCH TOO SOON to write it off as a civil war, as there is quite clearly a very real and common (i.e lower class !! - am I an elitist tho' a Marxist to use such terms? But how else can ne express it - here is a gap in the language which makes it difficult to express ....) But this is NOT a civil war = it is a rebellion of the masses, which has been partially taken over by a portion of the old elite who have seen that things cannot got go on in the old way... but that is why the revolution started and the section of the old elite presently in command really represent the old way, but with THEM in command ..... they will have their work cut out to control the demands of the masses .... Consider the situation dialectically comrades - and just follow events - FIRST OF ALL just recognise that we are just viewers from outside: it is Libyans who will decide - who will fight, and die, in the fight for a better society. I - and I hope all others on this list - just hope, with all our hearts, that the best of Libyan common society will win out in the end. MEANWHILE - there are pressing problems at home, which we CAN FIGHT TO RESOLVE - How to get a similar percentage of the British or American working people determined to get change their situation is OUR problem - Just cheer the Libyam people on !! Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -----Original Message----- From: marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet....@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet....@greenhouse.economics.utah. edu] On Behalf Of Louis Proyect Sent: 27 August 2011 3:31 PM To: e.c.apl...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Marxism] US "Militant" greets NATO-backed rebel victory in Libya On 10/27/11 10:18 AM, Fred Feldman wrote: > http://www.themilitant.com/2011/7531/753102.html > > Rebel forces take Tripoli > in Libyan civil war > (front page) > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com