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We had the same phenomenon in UK after the terrific storm in 1987 which tore p vast area of protected forests in Surrey and all the trees along the riverside and round the Exhibition area in Norwich - not forecast by the Met service (who, in fact forecast a quiet night) - then for several years we had dire forecasts - one after the other - until everybody got completely sceptical about their weather forecasting. Recently their accuracy seems to have vastly improved - but still it is often more pessimistic than the event - and floods or torrential rain always seem to come without warning !! Meteorological (and ANY forecasting) is full of problems ..... (and always has to be taken with a pinch of salt !!) Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -----Original Message----- From: marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet....@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet....@greenhouse.economics.utah. edu] On Behalf Of farmela...@juno.com Sent: 28 August 2011 4:30 PM To: e.c.apl...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Marxism] Hurricane report ====================================================================== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ====================================================================== The fact is that every winter in the northeastern USA, we get storms known as northeaster. These storms are typically at least as powerful as Irene, with comparable wind speeds, and are often much more destructive, since these storms bring heavy snow rather than rain. We had storms last winter that caused much more destruction than Irene has, thus far. And we will probably experience more of the same this winter too. Those storms too, get really hyped up by the media, but the hype over Irene seems rather silly IMO. I suspect that a combination of factors is behind the hype over Irene. >From the standpoint of media outlets, late summer before Labor Day, is a typical "slow news" period, so a big storm is a godsend for them. Then there is some reason to believe that some of the Obama people might be looking forward to using the storm as a way for providing a new economic stimulus in the form of disaster relief. Paul Krugman has been suggesting just that, and some of the GOP, like Eric Cantor, fearing that might happen, have asserted that any increases in government spending for storm relief must be compensated for by spending cuts elsewhere. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Louis Proyect <l...@panix.com> To: farmela...@juno.com Subject: Re: [Marxism] Hurricane report Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:12:35 -0400 ====================================================================== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ====================================================================== On 8/28/11 11:06 AM, Greg McDonald wrote: > http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/08/tornado-warn ing-issued-for-brooklyn-queens/1?csp=34news > > In spite of all the warnings, 11 people have died. I don't think it's > a cry wolf scenario at all. As everyone knows, such storms can spawn > tornados, flooding, downed trees, etc. > > Greg I am no meteorologist but I was skeptical of the worst case scenario for NYC all along. By definition a hurricane loses strength when it moves from the ocean, where it is fed by warm water currents, into land. Right now, the rain has stopped in NYC and there is no wind. In fact, I have not seen evidence of strong winds since yesterday. Right now CBS is reporting that there is not much evidence of fallen trees in Central Park. A couple of years ago a nasty localized storm brought down dozens. I am no conspiracy theorist but I wonder if all the hoopla had something to do with a much bigger disaster, loss of jobs, foreclosures, etc. ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e5a5f228b215933526st05vuc ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/e.c.apling%40bt internet.com ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
