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Hallo Bill (and Ismail Lagardien - who you quoted), I managed to piece together the link to the Guardian article, with which I highly agree - as now, after 25 years in retirement, I really only have web-access to academic material - even though, as a fellow of the Royal Society of Chemistry I still have access to a wide section of the literature - I am constantly being frustrated with web demands for large fees to access to more than the author's abstract of a scientific article. I really cannot understand why authors put up with it. Why do they not simply publish in the journals of their professional societies who, in general, grant much greater access? They do not get PAID for contributing to a commercial academic journal, although, of course, I am aware that more and more - because of financial problems - professional societies are tending to demand PAYMENT by authors for publication (equally to be abhorred, but often this can come out of a research grant). Maybe the commercial publications are seen as a way round the need for by-passing the critical peer review of the professional publications? In which case perhaps THIS is also something which should be under discussion - as this may well be used to suppress the publication of unorthodox and unwelcome viewpoints - which is also a burning question. You have raised a very important issue - which is not simply a question of money-making - but really about the general tendency nowadays to limit discussion on sensitive and controversial topics. Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -----Original Message----- From: marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet....@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet....@greenhouse.economics.utah. edu] On Behalf Of Bill Quimby Sent: 29 December 2011 10:23 PM To: e.c.apl...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Marxism] Journal Access ====================================================================== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ====================================================================== You know, what's interesting is that, while the JSTOR's and other databases have held a rigid monopoly for the last 15 - possibly 20? - years, it is only in the last few years that a "groundswell" has risen to challenge that monopoly for the benefit of the serious reader/independent researcher. Does that mean that the "audience" has become more sophisticated and demanding in its reading? And in reference to the note from ??? that Yale now offers its alumni access to JSTOR, it always struck me as strange that (still true for most) once you graduate you fall into the dark abyss of the unknowing, content with the knowledge that was useful to the time you graduated, no matter how long ago that was! - Bill On 12/29/2011 3:18 PM, Ismail Lagardien wrote: > ====================================================================== Rule #1: > YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > > > Excellent discussion underway on my Critical Realism discussion list > (yeah, yeah, I'm a Critical Realist), about open access to academic > journals. The following article was circulated. > > > In case anyone hasn't come across this article yet, it's worth a read: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/29/academic-publisher > s-murdoch-socialist > > > > > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set > your options > at: > http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/quimbywm% > 40gmail.com > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/e.c.apling%40bt internet.com ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com