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On 2012-09-21, at 10:00 AM, DW wrote:
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> A real struggle for independence of Catalunya, would be one that
> starts with real independence and full sovereignty out of both the
> Spanish State AND the European one. 


There is a parallel with Syriza in Greece, which also promises its uneasy 
supporters it can lift the yoke of austerity without leaving the eurozone or 
EU. This may be a pipedream, but the logic of the Greek and Catalan 
anti-austerity struggles points in the direction of genuine independence, a key 
element being the adoption of a sovereign currency after an inevitable forced 
withdrawal from the eurozone. Whether this logic gets to play itself out is 
another question.
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