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And achieving a PhD in many fields -- I know CS for sure from experience, I'm a happy PhD dropout -- an issue is the requirement of a PhD has caused so many candidates and so many conferences that papers no longer mean more than the tiniest of "improvements" of other papers. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com