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just lurking here, but figured that as an uninvolved 3rd party observer, i could offer a less emotionally charged opinion. i find the fixation, which exists on both sides, but particularly by CP defenders, on the singular issue of the word "tits", quite a distraction. i think adam's reminder below has been missing from much of the "debate": on Fri, 31 May 2013 18:48:47 -0700 Adam Turl <adamct...@gmail.com> wrote: > Add into this the way the article was promoted (as if it was promoted by a frat house) and one should be able to understand the response. > - - - - - - in case people forgot, adam is referencing the CP email newsletter (which i don't subscribe to), where fowler's original piece was promoted as "snapping jolie's bra". i cannott for the life of me see HOW this somehow ISN'T easily seen as a sexist and misogynist joke - one that is readily distinguishable from just the use (regardless of context) of the word "tits". for the record, i think ISO has taken it a bit too far in terms of its party-line-style diktat of wholesale (or as adam described, "existential") condemnation of CP as just a bunch of old misogynist pigs. but on the other hand CP defenders really do come off - to this lurker at least, and to a large number of my female comrades in particular (who, like me, are at least half the average age or younger than the regular contributors of this list, and have been debating this on facebook) - as being defensive in PRECISELY the way most men do when challenged for a transgression of male privilege. ie, by way of bluster, dismissive bravado/machismo and of course, rhetorical circumvention. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
