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I like Sir Nice [how can you not trust a man with a name like that] I cite him in *Syria Sarin Blame Game: Is Carla Del Ponte at it again? *<http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2013/05/syria-sarin-blame-game-is-carla-del.html> Carla Del Ponte's history of "Out of Court" statements in the service of > politics > When Carla Del Ponte was an United Nations’ International Criminal > Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) prosecutor, she worked very hard > at showing that all sides to the conflict were equality responsible for war > crimes: > > She sought that members of all ethnic groups be convicted. That would lead > to some bogus equalisation of criminal responsibility of all sides in war. > And that’s a very questionable strategy. > > That is what Sir Geoffrey Nice, a former ICTY prosecutor said in an > interview for "Dnevni > Avaz<http://www.avaz.ba/vijesti/intervju/carla-del-ponte-je-naredila-da-se-ramus-haradinaj-optuzi>" > according to a translation by Ina > Vukic<http://inavukic.com/2012/12/02/croatia-artificial-apportionment-of-criminal-responsibility-the-hideous-legacy-of-carla-del-ponte/> > . > > This simply was not the reality of this conflict and it led her to push > through indictments on non-Serbs with little or no evidence. This *"artificial > apportionment of criminal responsibility"* has been called *"the hideous > legacy of Carla Del Ponte."* She was responsible for the indictment of > nine high-ranking non-Serbs that spent cumulatively more than 40 years in > detention before they were acquitted. > > Sir Nice > described<http://inavukic.com/2012/12/02/croatia-artificial-apportionment-of-criminal-responsibility-the-hideous-legacy-of-carla-del-ponte/>how > it was in the case of the indictment of Prime Minister of Kosovo Ramus > Haradinaj, who was later acquitted: > > An experienced lawyer and I wrote to Carla Del Ponte just a few months > before the issuing of indictment, alerting her that she cannot issue an > indictment without the consensus of the legal board, which is a kind of a > test regarding the viability of an indictment based on the amount and > strength of evidence. This was otherwise the usual practice among lawyers > of the Prosecution during Louise Arbour’s time, before Carla Del Ponte came. > > We explained to her that testing of the indictment was necessary so that > the most experienced lawyers could be given the opportunity to comment. > But, Del Ponte refused. Just as when she abolished the practice of a > professional board when other indictments were in question > > But as Nice told it, > > Her official power was big. She, as an individual, could bring such > significant decisions without any consensus from her office. > > So she could issue indictments that proved her political thesis that both > sides were equally responsible, regardless of the facts, at least until the > evidence had to be presented in court. This also helped the Serbians, as > Nice sees it: > > Through various methods Serbia is determined to leave evidence that could > show equal moral responsibility of Serbia and of other republics of the > Former Yugoslavia and their people. Such a method wasn’t unsuccessful in > situations when, for example, publishing of some essential evidence was > blocked. > > Further, it maintained the indictments which it based and bases either > upon the lack of evidence or on that such evidence does not exist at all. > These indictments surfaced even as a part of ICTY working material and you > can find them in Mrs Del Ponte’s book. Perhaps their fingers could even be > found behind decisions about who is to be indicted and brought before the > court. > > Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust <http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com> Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach <http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/> <http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com>wrote: > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > See link at bottom. > > One of the co-authors of the report is Geoffrey Nice, former lead > prosecutor of Milosevic. I did a quick google to see what folks here said > about his role there, couldn't find much (I'm multi-tasking so didn't have > time for an extensive search). > > But anyway I thought it would be good for folks on this list who follow > such things to weigh in on what this might mean. > > The Assadistas (including those on this list) will of course say that every > word in the report is a lie. The more rabid among them will say all 11,000 > were killed by rebels (you think I'm kidding? Just wait.). > > But I figured we should have our ducks in a row, as we did, thanks to folks > like Clay, around the chemical weapons. > > > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/20/evidence-industrial-scale-killing-syria-war-crimes > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/clayclai%40gmail.com > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
