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On 2014-03-19, at 2:11 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: > On 3/19/14 2:02 PM, Marv Gandall wrote: >> Their breach with the "official" leadership of people like Tymoshenko and >> Klitchko. > > I was wrong here. The word I should have used was disaffection. The substitution doesn't affect the substance of what you wrote. You criticized Kagarlitsky for suggesting that the major pro-Western bourgeois parties headed by Klitschko and Tymoshenko played a central role, with the connivance of US and EU officials, in mobilizing the masses against Yanukovytch when the talks with the EU collapsed. You claim instead that the demonstrations were spontaneous and expressed a break/disaffection from the "official leadership." The point remains, however, that there is no evidence the west Ukrainian masses, those who gathered spontaneously or were encouraged to go to Maidan, have broken with or become disaffected from the centre-right party leaders unless it has been to move further to the right. This is confirmed by early polling for the scheduled presidential elections in May: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_presidential_election,_2014#Registered_candidates ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com