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I have not emerged from any 'mask", asshole. You announced your declaration of non-engagement with me when you could no longer refute my points. My position still remains what I said it was at the beginning. You are not the Supreme Court of what defines a Marxist on this list. Now that Joseph Catron has entered the discussion, your Trotsky-on-crack-cocaine act is clear for all to see. You are not a Palestinian, yet you presume to dictate who is a Palestinian traitor, and you do so in safe confines, far from the Middle East. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:34 PM, shaun may <mn...@hotmail.com> wrote: > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > J Catron wrote : > SM : The vast majority of the Palestinian people want to see it destroyed.> > JC : Yes, and they have various strategic approaches to the task. Some of > these are doubtlessly superior to others. All are rooted in more > understanding and analysis than you bring to the table. > SM : you have, in a previous posting, asserted that the majority of > Palestinians want a two-state solution and now you contradict yourself by > subscribing to my conception in a previous post that they do not. Who is > the "idiot" here? A strategic approach is not a fundamental perspective. > Individuals may share one or the other yet differ from each other in both > regards. Who is the "idiot" here? > YOU HAVE STILL NOT ANSWERED THE SALIENT QUESTION. Evading it does not make > it disappear. Perhaps you do not wish the answer to the question to be > known. > What is the fundamental perspective of Joseph Catron in relation to the > two-state solution question. I think we should know the answer to this > question. Because if you advocate that then you are an apologist for > Zionism. You have not made your position clear. I am not asking you which > Palestinian activists you know or do not know. I know a few myself but I > will not name drop. I am asking you to clarify your position so that the > list can get a clear handle on it. You are as slippery as an East Anglian > eel in fat. > > JC : To make my position clear, I know Palestinian activists who are > two-staters, one-staters, no-staters, and state-agnostics of various > permutations. And I respect and defer to all of them. You, not so much. > SM : that, once again, is not the clear perspective of a Marxist but the > cooking up of a liberal eclectic broth. Liberalism is the civilised > acceptance of class division and oppression. It is also, in regard to the > question of Zionism, the civilised acceptance of that as well. I am not > asking you to name drop but to clarify your position for the list. If you > respect the eclectic broth of positions which your refer to then you are > hiding without a clear political perspective on the whole question. You are > simply a liberal and, in all essentials, no different from those apologists > for Zionism who want a two-state settlement. You would command more respect > if you simply admitted it like Ranz rather than swimming around like a fish > trying to avoid a net > Who is the "idiot" here? Make your position clear. Don't just write that > you are making it clear. > SM :: > Certainly NOT a Marxist on a MARX list. > JC : No, I'm not. And I must say, some (not all) of you lot aren't the > mostappealing advertisements for it, either. Shrill, know-it-all > WesternMarxists might at least see what Palestinian Marxists like the DFLP, > PPPand FIDA think. > SM : You wouldn't know a Marxist (or a western Marxist, whatever that is) > if he was staring you in the face. You are a liberal democrat with a > disturbed conscience. And that's all that you are. For if you are not a > Marxist, what are you? > Who is the "idiot" here?? > > > > > http://shaunpmay.wordpress.com > > http://spmay.wordpress.com > > Take it easy (favourite motto of Engels) > > Doubt everything (favourite motto of Marx) > > Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who wants to live in an > institution? > Groucho Marx > > 'Sir, if you were my husband, I would put poison in your coffee.' Nancy > Astor. > 'Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it.' Winston Churchill. > > Blenheim Palace, 1912 > > > > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/sranz18%40gmail.com > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
