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Whoa, hang on just a second, that is complete bullshit. Say what you want about SSM, Paul Larudee is not against Arab democracy -- and if there is proof that he is, please post it. Paul can be a wild card but he's not a moron. When has Paul ever suggested that Arabs (let alone anyone else) is not ready for democracy? I too have issues with SSM, but they are mostly the same issues that I have with virtually every chunk of the left. - Amith On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ====================================================================== > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > ====================================================================== > > > you can forward this to Sterling. > Is the Assad Solidarity Movement led by WWP? Don't know, but with all the > Stalinists on board they don't need to lead it: it's perfectly capable of > wallowing in filth on its own. > Take, for instance (please!) SSM leader Paul Larudee, who has stated > openly on more than one occasion the secret belief of every > dictator-supporter: Arabs aren't ready for democracy, and if you gave them > democracy now they're too stupid to use it effectively when imperialism is > threatening them. > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > > > ====================================================================== > > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > Rick Sterling, a retired aerospace engineer and member of the Workers > > World-led Syria Solidarity Movement, has an article in today's > CounterPunch > > in which he repeats all the talking points of the pro-Assad > > crypto-Stalinists, this time lecturing Obama about why it is time for him > > to stop aiding the FSA. He holds up an article that Foley wrote in > February > > 2003 about their dwindling support in Aleppo. I am surprised that > Sterling > > has the brass to recommend an article that refers to "the arbitrary > arrests > > carried out by the regime of President Bashar al-Assad." Oh, no. > Arbitrary > > arrests? That can't be true, can it? Not our fearless anti-imperialist > > leader? What will they say next, that he is torturing people? The filthy > > tools of Yankee imperialism. > > > > Sterling also refers us to the other beheaded journalist, Steven Sotloff, > > who wrote that Alawites in Turkey support Bashar al-Assad. Wow! Imagine > > that. Alawites backing a government that favors Alawites across the > border. > > Who would have expected that? What impressive digging behind the news > from > > the retired aerospace engineer. > > > > The one thing missing from this mental midget's article is an explanation > > of the relationship of the Baathists to the dreaded ISIS. You can even > find > > an article in the same issue of CounterPunch by Peter Harling that comes > > much closer to the truth: > > > > "They are happy to attack weak Sunni rivals in selected areas, but have > > little appetite for confronting more serious adversaries: they mostly > shun > > the fight with the Syrian regime." > > > > Everybody by now understands that Bashar al-Assad had a de facto > > non-aggression pact with ISIS, similar in spirit to the one that Stalin > and > > Hitler signed before WWII, that they would both go after the FSA and any > > other fighter that they deemed a threat to their neoliberal and medieval > > states respectively. The NY Times had a pithy reference to this alliance > > until it, like the Hitler-Stalin pact, fell apart: > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/world/middleeast/assad- > > supporters-weigh-benefits-of-us-strikes-in-syria.html > > > > To Mr. Assad’s partisans, the armed Syrian opposition that emerged after > > the suppression of political protests in 2011 now seems practically > quaint > > and relatively surmountable, whether through military defeat or political > > agreement with fighters the government once called terrorists. > > > > The Damascus businessman said that if the government did not turn its air > > force toward protecting civilians from ISIS — and stop what he called its > > own terrorist bombings of civilian neighborhoods — more people would > > believe “the regime really is ISIS.” > > > > State news media have reported numerous new airstrikes on ISIS, and > United > > Nations officials in Damascus say there have been more direct clashes > > between the group and Syrian forces. Syrian insurgents and civilians in > > Raqqa say only a few of the strikes have scored direct hits on ISIS > there, > > though its headquarters is well known. > > > > An ISIS fighter there who identified himself only as Khaled said recently > > over Internet messaging, “Most of the airstrikes have targeted civilians > > and not ISIS headquarters,” adding, “Thank God.” > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ > > options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > > > ________________________________________________ > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
