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OK, as far as I can gather, your (Proyect's) perspective runs something like this: Socialist revolution may be desirable, but in our post-Soviet era, it can be nothing more than a pipedream. Rolling back neoliberal austerity and restoring parts of the postwar welfare state is a far more realistic objective. With militant mass pressure and strong international solidarity, it might just be possible. To denounce such efforts as reformist is to foreclose on real opportunities to affect the lives of millions in a positive way in favor of a utopian fantasy. Would you say that the above is a fair summary of your views? _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com