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They didn't want to allow legal contraception. They lost. They didn't want to allow abortion information to be legal. They lost. They didn't want to allow divorce. They lost. They didn't want the legalisation of gay sex. They lost. They don't want same-sex marriage. They'll lose on Friday. They've been pushed back on the right to abortion, but it's the thing they've most been able to stop significant progress on. However, they're fighting a losing battle on that. it's just going to take a bit longer and be a bit harder fight. The point is that the Catholic Church simply no longer has the same hold over either the population at large or the institutions of both state and civil society it once infected with its poisonous anti-humanism. The tide has come in for social progress and gone out for religious obscurantism and reaction in Ireland. What the Catholic church will and won't "allow" now simply doesn't count for much in Ireland. Phil On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Barbara Winslow <bwpurplew...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah but will the Catholic Church ever allow legalized abortion and > contraception? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 17, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Philip Ferguson via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > > > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > ***************************************************************** > > > > With just five days to the referendum on same-sex marriage in the south > of > > Ireland, polls continue to indicate that a hefty majority of public > opinion > > supports the right of same-sex couples to wed. > > > > It looks like the south of Ireland will be the first country where the > > population have voted in favour of gay marriage. > > > > What happened to the south of Ireland as the bastion of incredibly > > socially-conservative Catholicism? > > > > > https://rdln.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/irish-society-and-politics-and-the-referendum-on-gay-marriage/ > > _________________________________________________________ > > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/bwpurplewins%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
