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At 19:10 24-07-15 -0400, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote: > her >choice of rightists is questionable. As I pointed out, Paul Larudee and >Franklin Lamb are Baathist propagandists, not conservative or >libertarian ideologues. Hmmm, you just made me realize that I have no idea whether those individuals are right or left. AFAIK they only address middle-east issues in ways which are common to some leftists (sadly) but also rightists (both properly defining the Syrian and Iranian regimes as right-wing, and also noting the prominent transformation of yesteryear's far-right antisemites into more respectable "anti-zionists" following a literal stroke of genius). So I'm wondering: have YOU (or anyone else on this list) seen other writings by either of these two where they deal clearly with class issues that would place them on the right or left? My general rule, as when I looked through the website of that eastern-Ukrainian pro-Russian party that erroneously had "socialist" in its name, is that if you can write volumes yet never once speak about clearly left-wing concerns (the interests of the working class and labor issues, fighting sexism and the patriarchy, opposing nationalism with international solidarity, etc.) then I have no reason to call you a leftist. But again, I won't rush to judgement about these two.... > They write the same kind of junk as Tony >Greenstein Except Tony Greenstein is a COMMUNIST and could well be a member of this list! Yes, it's sad that some communists would write about Syria in the same terms as the rightists -- we've all been struggling with that. But it's a totally different struggle against the ENEMY which supports Assad BECAUSE he's a fascist. I don't know whether Franklin Lamb and Paul Larudee fall in that category, but I'd sure want to find out before I entered into "comradely" discussion with them. Wouldn't you? - Jeff _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com