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On 2015-09-26 23:26, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:

For comrades' information, Gabriel Ash was one of the Jews Sans
Frontiere bloggers who was defaming me for writing for CounterPunch.

Well I'm not sure where you draw the line between criticising and defaming, nor do I remember the exact words used by which commentator. But what was at issue was your DEFENSE of counterpunch against the (proven) charge that they publish a very substantial amount of material (usually under the now-familiar cover of "anti-imperialism") from authors with no left-wing credentials whatsoever (but frequently with clear ties to the far-right). And the research by Elise Hendrick indicating that the number of such articles even exceeds the number by authors clearly on the left (i.e. on issues less ambiguous than imperialism, globalisation, individual liberties etc.); her sampling of articles' positions on a few key issues (and the more difficult task of counting leftist versus rightist authors) supported that damning conclusion: http://meldungen-aus-dem-exil.noblogs.org/post/2015/07/19/counterpunch-or-suckerpunch/

Indeed Hendrick had calmly suggested that therefore leftist authors should boycott Counterpunch for that reason ("By using the CP platform, these authors, whatever their intentions may be, are helping to mainstream a veritable cesspit of white-supremacist ideology. Surely, it would be better to publish elsewhere and expose CounterPunch for the suckerpunch it is."). But there certainly has been no campaign to call out individual authors (such as Louis) who have not observed such a boycott, even if that were the best response. Rather, Louis was criticized for actively defending Counterpunch against her well-demonstrated allegations:
   http://louisproyect.org/2015/07/24/in-defense-of-counterpunch/

In that piece, beyond pointing out that the statistics in Hendrick's piece were not rigorous and conclusive in showing a greater number of authors from the right, Louis took the opportunity to (correctly!) decry the positions of some in regard to Syria (etc.), rather than responding directly to their evaluation of Counterpunch. But that distraction clearly doesn't apply to Gabriel Ash whose words regarding Syria are exemplary. Nor is pointing to one bad position ever a substitute for directly answering a person's views on an unrelated issue. Looking past such questionable debating tactics, I find Louis' gratuitous attempt to rescue Counterpunch quite flimsy. And apparently (as I documented in a previous post) correlated with his ascendancy to a regular Counterpunch author, which I find quite sad.

All I'd hope for is that sober analysis not be hindered by personal self-interest or prejudice. Regardless of the contributions from genuine leftists such as Louis, the charge remains that Counterpunch provides a valuable platform for a section of the right-wing, and follows the very strategy of a right-left alliance which is properly castigated by the majority on this email list in relation to a number of specific issues. In other words, if you DO see as a problem leftists making common cause with the likes of Assad and Putin, then you cannot fail to identify instruments such as Counterpunch which are so valuable in that service.

- Jeff









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