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With this Bookchin angst in play I have to ask, "would you prefer that the Kurds in their millions signed on with Enver Hoxha instead? Or that they cannot liberate themselves as a people unless they get the theory right (according the e-listing Marxmailers)?" Lambasting an abstracted 'Bookchin' has no traction in the real world of Turkish or Kurdish politics. LINK: 'In defence of Murray Bookchin': http://links.org.au/node/3573 QUOTE:"Despite my political disagreement with anarchism and my criticisms of his philosophy, Bookchin is one of my heroes. He devoted his life to the cause of the liberation of humanity. Much of his writing on society and ecology was brilliant, and deserves to be read carefully by ecosocialists and everyone else who realises that we can only save the world by radically changing society. "While his efforts to enunciate a coherent revolutionary world view didn’t succeed, at least he tried – in contrast to the shallow thinkers who resorted to insults instead of reason. He’ll be read and remembered when their books just gather dust. "That’s why 'Recovering Bookchin' is an important book. It’s less critical than it could be, but it is nevertheless an impressive effort to rehabilitate Bookchin’s reputation, and to make his views accessible to a new generation of left-green activists." dave riley _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com