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On March 15th Clay Claiborne writes: “I said that the protesters rode into an ambush but I will reserve my verdict on the effectiveness of their "riding into an ambush" until the outcome of the immediate battle - the vote in IL today. I never said I was withholding my verdict as to whether it was an ambush until the outcome of the vote.” On March 16th Clay Claiborne writes: "There seems to me to be a big disconnect where a section of the Left lives in an alternate reality in which they don't even have to consider whether this on that militant tactic might actually help Donald Trump get elected president and in which they can brag about having "shut Down Trump up" while for 3 days before the election the mainstream media was saturated with Donald Trump and his minions, and the subject that assured he would continue to be the focus of attention in this critical period was precisely that protest. "Shutting Donald Trump Up" can now join "Stopping Obama from bombing Syria" as another of the great victories of the Left's imagination." __________________________________________________________________ Clay has claimed that the UIC event was a Trump ambush. If it was an ambush it didn’t work. Clay then claims that the threshold of success for the protesters at UIC had to be to completely “shut Donald Trump up” and since Trump has not been completely shut up, the UIC Pavillion protest was ill considered and driven by an “alternate reality” and the “left’s imagination.” So first off, I reject the charge of bullshit. Clay's meaning is clear. Second, the elections result and subsequent survey data is in. Trump did not substantially increase his support by his putative ambush. Majorities and pluralities across all demographic groups blamed Trump for the violence at his events and his numbers didn’t get a post-protest victim of protester bump. Shutting Down Trump at UIC always meant at only UIC Pavillion on that one day – not completely and forever. It was nothing like “Stopping Obama from bombing Syria.” Clay goes from treating Trump like a strategic genius setting up ambush events so as to capture a bump of blowback anti-protester support to disparaging those protesters for not meeting a goal that he unilaterally imposes on them in order for their tactic to be measured a success. Clay follows Rachel Maddow, President Obama, Nate Silver, Trevor Noah and other establishment liberals in aiming his fire more at the protesters doing their first street politics than at Donald Trump. Sean Noonan _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com