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On March 15th Clay Claiborne writes:

“I said that the protesters rode into an ambush but I will reserve my
verdict on the effectiveness of their "riding into an ambush" until the
outcome of the immediate battle - the vote in IL today. I never said I was
withholding my verdict as to whether it was an ambush until the outcome of
the vote.”


On March 16th Clay Claiborne writes:

"There seems to me to be a big disconnect where a section of the Left lives
in an alternate reality in which they don't even have to consider whether
this on that militant tactic might actually help Donald Trump get elected
president and in which they can brag about having "shut Down Trump up"
while for 3 days before the election the mainstream media was saturated
with Donald Trump and his minions, and the subject that assured he would
continue to be the focus of attention in this critical period was precisely
that protest.

"Shutting Donald Trump Up" can now join "Stopping Obama from bombing Syria"
as another of the great victories of the Left's imagination."
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Clay has claimed that the UIC event was a Trump ambush.  If it was an
ambush it didn’t work.  Clay then claims that the threshold of success for
the protesters at UIC had to be to completely “shut Donald Trump up” and
since Trump has not been completely shut up, the UIC Pavillion protest was
ill considered and driven by an “alternate reality” and the “left’s
imagination.” So first off, I reject the charge of bullshit. Clay's meaning
is clear.

Second, the elections result and subsequent survey data is in. Trump did
not substantially increase his support by his putative ambush.  Majorities
and pluralities across all demographic groups blamed Trump for the violence
at his events and his numbers didn’t get a post-protest victim of protester
bump. Shutting Down Trump at UIC always meant at only UIC Pavillion on that
one day – not completely and forever.   It was nothing like “Stopping Obama
from bombing Syria.”


Clay goes from treating Trump like a strategic genius setting up ambush
events so as to capture a bump of blowback anti-protester support to
disparaging those protesters for not meeting a goal that he unilaterally
imposes on them in order for their tactic to be measured a success.  Clay
follows Rachel Maddow, President Obama, Nate Silver, Trevor Noah and other
establishment liberals in aiming his fire more at the protesters doing
their first street politics than at Donald Trump.


Sean Noonan
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