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It appears the Paul whom Alison mentions is Paul Larudee, a manic pro-Assad organizer. On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, A.R. G via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Hi Jeff, > > Given that you generally ignore evidence related to this issue, I don't > think it would matter, but as for everyone else, yes I am speaking with the > Nakba survivor on the tour and we'll probably be releasing some statements > in their own words about what happened. Stanford SJP is lying out their > ass. > > On Sunday, April 10, 2016, Jeff via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > wrote: > > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > ***************************************************************** > > > > At 20:00 09-04-16 -0400, A.R. G via Marxism wrote: > > > > > >SJP shut down an event featuring an 85-year-old Nakba Survivor, one of > two > > >people who have spent their entire lives in a refugee camp in Lebanon. > Now > > >they are claiming -- falsely -- because Alison Weir (remember her > > >< > > > https://louisproyect.org/2015/06/25/the-jewish-voice-for-peace-attack-on-alison-weir-jvp-loses-its-balance-2/ > > >?) > > >was in the audience. > > > > > > > On the face of it, stopping a Palestinian survivor from speaking on the > > basis of that person's views is inexcusable. However Amith has presented > no > > evidence that: > > > > >Stanford SJP is lying. It had nothing to do with Alison Weir and > > everything > > >to do with the fact that one of the speakers wanted to question Israel's > > >right to exist as a regime > > > > If Amith has some evidence to that effect, he hasn't shared it with us. I > > went to the website of SJP Stanford and found nothing to the effect that > > they supported "Israel's right to exist as a regime" let alone that they > > would prevent a Palestinian from speaking who did challenge that > non-right. > > https://sjp.stanford.edu/about/ > > > > So we've only heard one side of this story, from the single link Amith > gave > > us to the statement of the Free Palestine Movement which itself doesn't > > make > > any accusation as outrageous as Amith has made ostensibly on their > behalf. > > > > > > > http://freepalestinemovement.org/2016/04/07/why-was-the-nakba-tour-canceled-at-stanford/ > > > > Having heard one side regarding this incident, I suspect that a more > > thorough report of this matter would reveal otherwise. I would suspect > (but > > granted, can't say for sure) that it DID have everything to do with > Alison > > Weir and her right-wing backers through which she is (at the very least) > > connected to antisemitism. It is not at all unusual for antisemites to be > > excluded from a pro-Palestinian event for the very reasons we have > > discussed > > previously and which I don't think are controversial (at least among > > leftists). > > > > In that regard, I can only note that SJP has been involved in a struggle > to > > defend its legitimacy within the University of California system (which > > doesn't formally include Stanford) on the very basis of their > anti-zionism > > being a form of antisemitism: > > > > > > > http://sjpwest.org/2016/03/27/sjp-west-relieved-that-uc-regents-affirmed-legitimacy-of-anti-zionism-looks-forward-to-continuing-to-grow-movement-for-palestinian-rights/ > > > > So, again making an educated guess, it might be that the domination of an > > event (at least in terms of the literature available there) by a > right-wing > > organization connected to antisemitism would have undercut that very > > campaign for legitimacy undertaken by SJP. The SJP, like most Palestinian > > organizations, has nothing to do with antisemitism and struggles against > > the > > use of the charge of antisemitism to attack and discredit the > Palestinian's > > struggle for liberation. > > > > If Amith has any actual evidence to his claim or can refute what I have > > written I suspect to be true, then I await his reply. However I have no > > interest in rehashing the formalistic claims by Alison Weir to oppose > > antisemitism, let alone the notion that her right-wing organization > doesn't > > accept and embrace antisemites. > > > > - Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://freepalestinemovement.org/2016/04/07/why-was-the-nakba-tour-canceled-at-stanford/ > > > > > >Alison Weir had nothing to do with the event... > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > > Set your options at: > > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > - Amith > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
