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Hi all, I know that this list-serv is public which is why I discourage anyone from giving Jeff more room to lie. The organizers at Stanford have since admitted that they had asked a Palestinian refugee not to challenge Israel's right to exist, confirming the refugee's own account. There is a separate topic about this including the video interview and documentation confirming it had nothing to do with Alison Weir, but Jeff did not respond. Now he is shitting all over an article by Nada Elia. Pathetic. Do not feed the troll On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Jeff via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > At 18:54 28-04-16 -0400, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote: > > > >It is much more complicated. The people who organized the tour are part > >of the PSL/Workers World wing of the movement that is very much pro-Arab > >except those who opposed Assad. Paul Larudee, for example, writes very > >laudable articles on Palestinians but is atrocious on Syria. > > But of course the ones you named are all part of the left and aren't who I > was referring to. If the Free Palestine Movement (including Paul Larudee) > had done exactly what they set out to, then I would have no problem with > them and would happily have invited their speaker to my locality. And as > far as I know, this tour is mainly functioning in that way and should be > supported. > > But in the case of the event at Stanford, the speaking engagement became an > opportunity for Alison Weir and her openly right-wing organization to gain > legitimacy they don't deserve. And an opportunity for Amith to imagine a > political difference on which he bases his outright slanders. > > >Furthermore, a lot of right wingers have become pro-Palestinian on a > >realpolitik basis, like Mearsheimer and Walt who see the Israel lobby as > >a threat to the "national interest" > > EXACTLY. And that is what I mean by "right-wing." Some of them are actually > far-right, but that isn't the essential point. It is that they are NOT > fighting for Palestinian liberation, they are fighting against Israel. And > indeed if the right wing (the ruling class) were to decide to reject Israel > (for instance, stop US aid and support in the UNSC) that would be a GREAT > outcome. But the movement for Palestine opposes Israel for very different > reasons and in ways consistent with the interests of the left (including > fighting all racism) and would be crippled if it were to merge politically > with the anti-Israel right. That point is widely recognized, except by > Amith. > > - Jeff > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > -- - Amith _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
