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Both books come highly recommended. I do believe Williams is still at Valdosta state. The latter book is cast as a history from below approach to the Civil war. I will try to post some more examples in this vein. I just need to pull a few down from my shelf. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com