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The problem with this call is that it is based on an independent Sanders campaign or Sanders/Green campaign actually becoming the dominant anti-Trump force. That seems to me to be highly unlikely to say the least and the idea that Clinton and the Democrats would abandon the field is surely put forward as a merely fanciful rhetorical device. No the reality must be faced that a supercharged third party Sanders/Green campaign might well secure a healthy percentage of votes but nowhere near enough to displace Clinton as the major challenger to Trump. The further reality is that the more successful such a campaign was the more likely that it would take enough votes from the Clinton Democrats to leave Trump the final winner. This is not-as far as I am concerned- an argument against such a campaign. But it should be built on an honest understanding of what it involves. The possibility of a Trump victory is being used as a bogey-man argument to force support to the very-right wing candidacy of Hillary Clinton. But this is not the 1930's , Trump does not equal fascism, the Democrats are not Social Democrats and a call for an independent left campaign is not a breach of a non-existent united front against a non-existent threat of fascism. However it would be counter-productive in the short and long run to build a left third party on a false basis of becoming in this election cycle the dominant force against Trump. Rather it should be done on the basis of a decisive break form the falsity of lesser-evilism and the beginning of a fight to build an independent political leadership. While I look at these issues from afar in Australia I would think that a first step would be advocating a vote for the Greens and to build that as strongly as possible. Unfortunately Sanders is now out of the picture for such a project as he has become a shill for Wall St Hillary. On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > > > > http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/29/run-bernie-run-open-letter-to-bernie-sanders-from-former-campaign-staff/ > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gregadler502%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
