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This is never going to happen. Everyone...meaning the much 'liberal' constituencies that hug the coast of the Pacific out here "like" the idea but no one would seriously consider it, even if it was on the ballot, and could pass, it won't happen. This is a fundamentally reactionary concept at many, many levels. It's one of those "cool ideas" that no one, ever, thinks through. The much better idea would be to divide the State into 2 or 3 (the latter makes more sense since it could offer an olive branch to the 'Red State' sectors of California that while small in population, actually dominates the geographic spread of the state...and make it more palatable to Republicans in Congress. Again, it would have to be approved by Congress. 38,000,000 Californians have no more say in the U.S. Senate that 600k people in Wyoming. That just isn't right...but succession? Please.... [For an idea of how this would look: draw a line from just south of Monterey to the Nevada border for the area north of this new state border for "North California", a line from just south of Ventura to the Nevada border for Central California and every thing below that would be South California. David _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com